Optima Red Top battery - expected life?
#21
I went through 2 Red Tops in less than a year..... if not charged daily mine would go to complete discharge in about 10 days...... then they sulphated
and were useless...... I'm currently using a Bosch....no problems...its three years old and doesn't discharge nearly as fast as Red Tops...great 84 month warranty and free road side service.
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aproximately 4.5 minutes after the warranty expires so you can then have the unforgetable experience of calling thier crack factory warranty personnel and they can, in that special way of thier's, tell you where to go.
Dealing withj Optima makes dealing with GM seem orgasmic.
Dealing withj Optima makes dealing with GM seem orgasmic.
#23
That makes a battery tender or maintainer an excellent investment and regular use will extend the life of any battery. Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
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Which one to buy for the Red Top Optima?
Christian
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You can buy a real cheap a** model from HARBOR FREIGHT or WALMART. Some people swear by them. Remember you get what you pay for.
But, most use either the BATTERY TENDER PLUS by DELTRON CORP (@ 1.25amp) or CTEK US3300 (@ .8/3.3amp), which is a dual amp mode. Either of these manufacturers have built in protection against reverse polarity and voltage spikes. You can leave them connected indefinitely during periods of non use. Mine is connected for six months a year and any time the car isn't being driven.
Some use a BATTERY TENDER JR., also by DELTRON CORP. It's actually intended for a motorcycle battery (@ .75amp), but will work fine unless the battery is really severely discharged. It will take a bit longer to bring a battery up to optimum charge. A red top only needs minimal amp input to maintain the battery. High amp input can do more harm than good to the internals due to the heat.
Last edited by hotwheels57; 06-29-2010 at 07:12 PM.
#25
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I've had my red top for almost four years. I bought a ztek charger last year and use it. It has a special setting for Optima batteries.
No problems as long as I keep it charged.
No problems as long as I keep it charged.
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I've got three and a half years out of mine, and I use a bettery tender if the vette is going to be idle for 10 days or more. Never had any problems and I at least feel better having a battery that isn't going to leak, which in a C5 is akin to having a major wiring nightmare as the PCM and wiring harness is right underneath the battery. But I know using a C-Tek or other special Optima & Odyessey battery charger.
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My experience is mixed....Got a Red Top almost very first thing 5 and half years ago when I got the Vette....It lasted about 11 months and crapped out ...no charging...Got an exchange, and the second one is STILL working JUST FINE almost 5 years later.....Daily driver, rarely sits for more than 48 hours...
#28
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Optimas need charging when not in use. If using a Deltran charger, the Battery Tender Plus @ 1.25 amps is the way to go and will also handle AGM batteries (which the JR. will not)
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All batteries need charging if vehicles sit idle for extended periods of time. This is especially true for vehicles with high parasitic draws. Christian, hotwheels57 gives excellent advice regarding tenders/maintainers. There are many great chargers on the market and we do not have the capability to test each of them and do not "officially" endorse specific maintainers or chargers. We will supply information about devices that are advertised as being compatible with AGM batteries, including the CTEK MULTI US7000 or 7002, the Interacter EX (12 volt 6 amp model) and the PulseTech Xtreme XC100, although that is by no means a comprehensive list.
Generally speaking, fully-automatic "multi-stage or multi-step" chargers, which monitor the battery and charge it as necessary, are the preferred option. Multi-stage maintainers will charge at varying voltages and varying amperage (rarely exceeding 2 amps) and some of these multi-step chargers are also capable of being regular battery chargers (7 amps or more).
Traditional "float" chargers, which provide a constant voltage with tapering amperage to the battery, even when it is fully-charged are OK, but not preferred. For float charging, we recommend 1 amp max, 13.2-13.8 volts. For regular charging, we recommend 10 amps max, 13.8-15 volts.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
Generally speaking, fully-automatic "multi-stage or multi-step" chargers, which monitor the battery and charge it as necessary, are the preferred option. Multi-stage maintainers will charge at varying voltages and varying amperage (rarely exceeding 2 amps) and some of these multi-step chargers are also capable of being regular battery chargers (7 amps or more).
Traditional "float" chargers, which provide a constant voltage with tapering amperage to the battery, even when it is fully-charged are OK, but not preferred. For float charging, we recommend 1 amp max, 13.2-13.8 volts. For regular charging, we recommend 10 amps max, 13.8-15 volts.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
#30
All batteries need charging if vehicles sit idle for extended periods of time. This is especially true for vehicles with high parasitic draws. Christian, hotwheels57 gives excellent advice regarding tenders/maintainers. There are many great chargers on the market and we do not have the capability to test each of them and do not "officially" endorse specific maintainers or chargers. We will supply information about devices that are advertised as being compatible with AGM batteries, including the CTEK MULTI US7000 or 7002, the Interacter EX (12 volt 6 amp model) and the PulseTech Xtreme XC100, although that is by no means a comprehensive list.
Generally speaking, fully-automatic "multi-stage or multi-step" chargers, which monitor the battery and charge it as necessary, are the preferred option. Multi-stage maintainers will charge at varying voltages and varying amperage (rarely exceeding 2 amps) and some of these multi-step chargers are also capable of being regular battery chargers (7 amps or more).
Traditional "float" chargers, which provide a constant voltage with tapering amperage to the battery, even when it is fully-charged are OK, but not preferred. For float charging, we recommend 1 amp max, 13.2-13.8 volts. For regular charging, we recommend 10 amps max, 13.8-15 volts.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
Generally speaking, fully-automatic "multi-stage or multi-step" chargers, which monitor the battery and charge it as necessary, are the preferred option. Multi-stage maintainers will charge at varying voltages and varying amperage (rarely exceeding 2 amps) and some of these multi-step chargers are also capable of being regular battery chargers (7 amps or more).
Traditional "float" chargers, which provide a constant voltage with tapering amperage to the battery, even when it is fully-charged are OK, but not preferred. For float charging, we recommend 1 amp max, 13.2-13.8 volts. For regular charging, we recommend 10 amps max, 13.8-15 volts.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
Yesterday I ordered a Battery Tender Plus 12 volt 1.25 mp 3 Stage Smart Charger from Deltran...is that a good choice?
Christian
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I've had the same red top in my Z06 since it was new...installed 8/2003; it's a daily driver. On my wife's car, her red top lasted less than 3 years. She replaced it with a Sears Gold battery which started leaking in less than a year.
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My red top has been in the car about 5 years. I wish it would die so I could put in a lightweight battery..... But it won't.
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It's a good choice to use a battery tender over not using one, but unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with that particular one to give even an individual endorsement or critique. I can say that in the hundreds of threads I've participated in, I don't recall hearing of any bad experiences with it.
If you contact the manufacturer, they will be able to tell you with certainty if a given charger is compatible with our batteries or anyone else's. If they cannot provide that information to you, it might be best to consider another charger.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
Last edited by OptimaJim; 07-05-2010 at 04:47 PM.
#36
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Hi Christian,
It's a good choice to use a battery tender over not using one, but unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with that particular one to give even an individual endorsement or critique. I can say that in the hundreds of threads I've participated in, I don't recall hearing of any bad experiences with it.
If you contact the manufacturer, they will be able to tell you with certainty if a given charger is compatible with our batteries or anyone else's. If they cannot provide that information to you, it might be best to consider another charger.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
It's a good choice to use a battery tender over not using one, but unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with that particular one to give even an individual endorsement or critique. I can say that in the hundreds of threads I've participated in, I don't recall hearing of any bad experiences with it.
If you contact the manufacturer, they will be able to tell you with certainty if a given charger is compatible with our batteries or anyone else's. If they cannot provide that information to you, it might be best to consider another charger.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
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I had a Red Top in my '00. Bought it in October 2001 and when I sold the car in June 2008, it was still working fine.
When I bought my '03, it had a Red Top already in it. The battery was bought in '07, but it died on me in Oct 2010.
So, hard to say how long one will last.
When I bought my '03, it had a Red Top already in it. The battery was bought in '07, but it died on me in Oct 2010.
So, hard to say how long one will last.
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RedTops need to be on a maintainer if not driven often. The one in the wife's C5 was killed by a Garmin that drew current even when it and the car slept. The RedTop was replaced free under warranty and the replacement has been fine for 3 years since I got rid of the Garmin draw issue.
The RedTop in my 2002 C5 is almost 10 years old and performs like new still. I maintained it all these years with a Battery Tender Plus until recently when I switched to a CTEK 7002.
The RedTop in my 2002 C5 is almost 10 years old and performs like new still. I maintained it all these years with a Battery Tender Plus until recently when I switched to a CTEK 7002.