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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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I noticed some slop today when changing into 2nd and 4th gear. When I shifted to 6th, the shifter pulled out of its socket. I must push down on the shifter now to get proper engagement. I haven't been able to take the console off to look at the shifter yet. I believe it's broken in the pivot point since the shift rod assembly can be lifted a few inches with very little effort while in neutral.

What caused it? Has anyone experienced this before? If so, is it something that can be fixed without requiring a weld?
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Sure it is broken or perhaps just come out of the socket. You need to open up the console to see what the situation looks like.

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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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Andrew,
I don't think that it is broken but without looking at it there is no way to tell. The shifter is a strong piece of steel. The shifter assembly is held in car with 4 bolts. It is my guess that they have worked loose. The shifter assembly itself has 4 rivets holding it together. Those rivets hold the shifter rod retaining ring to the metal plate that bolts to the car. Those may also be the trouble. If the rivets are broken, drill them out and replace them. If you are not able to use rivets, you could use the same size bolt and nut with some lock-tight (I would use blue so it can be removed if you need to).
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Hmmmm!

Seems like a great time to replace it!
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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It has a plastic cap on the ball end, its very likely the cap separated.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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What "short shifter" is in the car?
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Check this page 2 of this post, scroll down you'll see what I mean from the pictures:

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What "short shifter" is in the car?
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Originally Posted by Boulty1961
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The shifter assembly is held in car with 4 bolts. It is my guess that they have worked loose.

I have a B&M in mine, and this happened to me. We were on a road trip in the vette. We live in Indiana, and we were in TEXAS. We had to break the console down in an autozone parking lot and all of these bolts except for 1 had backed out completely and the last one was about halfway out. It's an easy fix, but it sucks when it happens! Whoever had installed mine though, for whatever reason, used gasket maker on the bolts. I guess they confused it for loctite? It's happened 2x since, even with properly using loctite on the bolts. Last time, we used helicoils... so hopefully, it's fixed for good... it's been ok thus far!
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If you used the 4 stock 6mm bolts to install the shifter - they are too short. The base of the after market shifter is thicker and you don't get enough purchase using the stock length bolts. Don't just retighten the bolts. Replace them with longer ones.
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happened to me too. got longer bolts with some washers and some threadlock and it wont happen again!
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
If you used the 4 stock 6mm bolts to install the shifter - they are too short. The base of the after market shifter is thicker and you don't get enough purchase using the stock length bolts. Don't just retighten the bolts. Replace them with longer ones.
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Originally Posted by Boulty1961
Andrew,
I don't think that it is broken but without looking at it there is no way to tell. The shifter is a strong piece of steel. The shifter assembly is held in car with 4 bolts. It is my guess that they have worked loose. The shifter assembly itself has 4 rivets holding it together. Those rivets hold the shifter rod retaining ring to the metal plate that bolts to the car. Those may also be the trouble. If the rivets are broken, drill them out and replace them. If you are not able to use rivets, you could use the same size bolt and nut with some lock-tight (I would use blue so it can be removed if you need to).
It was the 4 bolts holding the assembly in, thank you.
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
If you used the 4 stock 6mm bolts to install the shifter - they are too short. The base of the after market shifter is thicker and you don't get enough purchase using the stock length bolts. Don't just retighten the bolts. Replace them with longer ones.

I noticed that when re tightening the bolts, they just weren't grabbing. I am headed to the hardware store to pick some longer bolts. Thanks for the re-assurance, thought I was having issues.
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