Hydrocarbon v. Carbon Fiber
12-29-2012, 01:20 AM
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Have seen samples of Pat's work here on the forum and all comments posted about them have been very positive. You won't go wrong ordering from him.
01-03-2013, 10:51 AM
#42
Drifting
I have the wiper cowl and wiper blade arms I received last month from Mr. Pat but havent had time to install them on my car yet. I know, my bad. The cowl and wiper arms look perfect. Hope to get them installed this week.
Now that I've seen the radio bezel and arm rest console, I may have to order them as well. I really like that gunmetal gray.
Now that I've seen the radio bezel and arm rest console, I may have to order them as well. I really like that gunmetal gray.
05-28-2013, 12:03 PM
#44
Safety Car
I will give you some great advice
I am getting ready to change out all of my stainless steel/chrome engine dressup to carbon fiber. I am looking at around $1200.00 all together. What I am not sure of is the difference in hydrocarbon and carbon fiber.
Also as I was shopping at different vendors, I found a prices difference on certain parts and thought I would order from a couple of different suppliers (all forum vendors). I also wonder if I order from two different vendors will the black CF match.
Also as I was shopping at different vendors, I found a prices difference on certain parts and thought I would order from a couple of different suppliers (all forum vendors). I also wonder if I order from two different vendors will the black CF match.
05-28-2013, 12:42 PM
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FYI - I can cover over those ss pieces and sve you $$$$...
05-28-2013, 12:54 PM
#49
Le Mans Master
Whoops...didn't realize the MFG was on this thread. 
I have my harsh opinions sometimes and yes, I can clearly tell the difference between real carbon fiber and the hydrocarbon stuff. Also, the "fake" carbon look is way more noticeable when on the car vs the photo you've shared here.
You put out a good product and I wish you/your business well...but the look just isn't for me.
I have my harsh opinions sometimes and yes, I can clearly tell the difference between real carbon fiber and the hydrocarbon stuff. Also, the "fake" carbon look is way more noticeable when on the car vs the photo you've shared here.
You put out a good product and I wish you/your business well...but the look just isn't for me.
05-28-2013, 01:21 PM
#51
Le Mans Master
Relax...don't take it personally. Love your car.
IMO, Your limited use of AHC stuff under the hood...in black color...looks ok. IMO, It's the overuse of those AHC parts, especially in the interior and in the other colors available, that looks cheesy. I can clearly tell the difference between real and fake carbon. Just don't like the look of fake carbon.
Again, just my opinion.
IMO, Your limited use of AHC stuff under the hood...in black color...looks ok. IMO, It's the overuse of those AHC parts, especially in the interior and in the other colors available, that looks cheesy. I can clearly tell the difference between real and fake carbon. Just don't like the look of fake carbon.
Again, just my opinion.
05-28-2013, 01:27 PM
#52
Drifting
Bingo...............
Pats Parts have been on mine for about 2 years (might be closer to three) and look as good now as they did when I got them.
It all depends on what you can sleep with.
If you want the real deal for the cost or something that looks just as good.
There are those that still want the Carbon Fiber in Racing but the Hydro Carbon is taking over that quickly. I have Hydrocarbon on the rail..
Not sure you knew that Pat. (mind slips at my age. Forget to mentioned it
)
Just don't go over board thinking your going to get that much weight saving to make a hill of difference in a street car.
They both look great.....
Motorjb mentioned something, . You can over do it with both and make things look busy. I went or go for most extreme at the shows with the mirror back end and all the gauges and i'm sure mine would be over done to Moto but they give awards for this BTW so its like ****. One size don't fit all.
The CF is cool.. but if you ever bust a part, bring your check book and your first born cause they are going to want both and I've placed in every show the vette has been in so far so its not making that much difference to the Judges.
Goes back to what you can sleep with.
Pats Parts have been on mine for about 2 years (might be closer to three) and look as good now as they did when I got them.
It all depends on what you can sleep with.
If you want the real deal for the cost or something that looks just as good.
There are those that still want the Carbon Fiber in Racing but the Hydro Carbon is taking over that quickly. I have Hydrocarbon on the rail..
Not sure you knew that Pat. (mind slips at my age. Forget to mentioned it
) Just don't go over board thinking your going to get that much weight saving to make a hill of difference in a street car.
They both look great.....
Motorjb mentioned something, . You can over do it with both and make things look busy. I went or go for most extreme at the shows with the mirror back end and all the gauges and i'm sure mine would be over done to Moto but they give awards for this BTW so its like ****. One size don't fit all.
The CF is cool.. but if you ever bust a part, bring your check book and your first born cause they are going to want both and I've placed in every show the vette has been in so far so its not making that much difference to the Judges.
Goes back to what you can sleep with.
Last edited by liveaboard74; 05-28-2013 at 01:46 PM.
05-28-2013, 02:02 PM
#53
Safety Car
I was just being chessy .....
Relax...don't take it personally. Love your car.
IMO, Your limited use of AHC stuff under the hood...in black color...looks ok. IMO, It's the overuse of those AHC parts, especially in the interior and in the other colors available, that looks cheesy. I can clearly tell the difference between real and fake carbon. Just don't like the look of fake carbon.
Again, just my opinion.
IMO, Your limited use of AHC stuff under the hood...in black color...looks ok. IMO, It's the overuse of those AHC parts, especially in the interior and in the other colors available, that looks cheesy. I can clearly tell the difference between real and fake carbon. Just don't like the look of fake carbon.
Again, just my opinion.
05-28-2013, 02:39 PM
#54
Race Director
FWIW, GM uses both fake and real CF. Real in the body panels, fake on interior stuff. The difference is clearly the material. The weight difference won't ever be noticeable for interior pieces unless you are using a scale that measures in grams. For interior stuff I'd always go with faux cf and I ordered from Pat. Great guy and stands behind his work. For hoods, fenders etc, I'd go with real cf and pay the difference. Just my opinion.
-Alex
-Alex
05-28-2013, 04:52 PM
#55
Drifting
I have had other companies want my business with hydrocarbon and have i tried them with a couple items.
The quality was no where near what Pat does and he will stand behind it.
Pat is the one who does all my hydro work on my double din bezels
My bezel Pat did for me
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The quality was no where near what Pat does and he will stand behind it.
Pat is the one who does all my hydro work on my double din bezels
My bezel Pat did for me
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05-28-2013, 05:18 PM
#56
Drifting
I plan on contacting Pat tomorrow and placing an order. He is actually only about an hour north of me.
I will do that. I will post a picture of the engine bay as it is now with the ss and after with the carbon fiber/hydrocarbon.
I plan on polishing some items such as the alternator brackets and the belt tension pulley.
I am planning on the Battery/fuse box cover (all one piece), Brake Booster cover, Power Steering Cover, Radiator Support, Fender Covers, Intake Cover, Front Nose Trim piece and I found a set of CF cap covers. I presently have painted FRC and the two tanks that are in Torch Red and Clearcoated to match the body. I want to keep those as is. If they don't work with the new CF look I may have to change those also.
I will do that. I will post a picture of the engine bay as it is now with the ss and after with the carbon fiber/hydrocarbon.
I plan on polishing some items such as the alternator brackets and the belt tension pulley.
I am planning on the Battery/fuse box cover (all one piece), Brake Booster cover, Power Steering Cover, Radiator Support, Fender Covers, Intake Cover, Front Nose Trim piece and I found a set of CF cap covers. I presently have painted FRC and the two tanks that are in Torch Red and Clearcoated to match the body. I want to keep those as is. If they don't work with the new CF look I may have to change those also.
I did end up going with real carbon fiber components, but have considered the wiper cowl setup in hydrocarbon. Good luck and be sure to post pics when it's finished. Also maybe include some close ups of the parts you get before installation so that others can see the quality.
Just to give you an idea of what I did.
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06-04-2013, 08:12 PM
#59
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Bingo...............
Pats Parts have been on mine for about 2 years (might be closer to three) and look as good now as they did when I got them.
It all depends on what you can sleep with.
If you want the real deal for the cost or something that looks just as good.
There are those that still want the Carbon Fiber in Racing but the Hydro Carbon is taking over that quickly. I have Hydrocarbon on the rail..
Not sure you knew that Pat. (mind slips at my age. Forget to mentioned it)
Just don't go over board thinking your going to get that much weight saving to make a hill of difference in a street car.
They both look great.....
Motorjb mentioned something, . You can over do it with both and make things look busy. I went or go for most extreme at the shows with the mirror back end and all the gauges and i'm sure mine would be over done to Moto but they give awards for this BTW so its like ****. One size don't fit all.
The CF is cool.. but if you ever bust a part, bring your check book and your first born cause they are going to want both and I've placed in every show the vette has been in so far so its not making that much difference to the Judges.
Goes back to what you can sleep with.
Pats Parts have been on mine for about 2 years (might be closer to three) and look as good now as they did when I got them.
It all depends on what you can sleep with.
If you want the real deal for the cost or something that looks just as good.
There are those that still want the Carbon Fiber in Racing but the Hydro Carbon is taking over that quickly. I have Hydrocarbon on the rail..
Not sure you knew that Pat. (mind slips at my age. Forget to mentioned it
) Just don't go over board thinking your going to get that much weight saving to make a hill of difference in a street car.
They both look great.....
Motorjb mentioned something, . You can over do it with both and make things look busy. I went or go for most extreme at the shows with the mirror back end and all the gauges and i'm sure mine would be over done to Moto but they give awards for this BTW so its like ****. One size don't fit all.
The CF is cool.. but if you ever bust a part, bring your check book and your first born cause they are going to want both and I've placed in every show the vette has been in so far so its not making that much difference to the Judges.
Goes back to what you can sleep with.