Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

engine miss when cold.... troubleshooting advice?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 04:32 PM
  #1  
Bloodvette's Avatar
Bloodvette
Thread Starter
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 288
Likes: 2
From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Default engine miss when cold.... troubleshooting advice?

99 convertible, LS1, 80,000 miles. obtained it at 60,000, not sure if ever plugs/wires have ever been replaced.

for a few weeks now, when I start up the car. regardless of outdoor temperature (I only drive in the summer however), there is a miss that is only noticeable during acceleration. During acceleration it causes a noise like a dead cylinder, like a crackle or gargle. It usually seems fine at idol. there was once or twice that I noticed the RPMs dropping and jumping a little at a red light. this all goes away after a few minutes of driving, once engine is up to temperature. So today I put all new plugs 41-110, checked gaps on all, 0.040". and went for a test drive same thing.

the plugs were all perfectly clean which leads me to believe its not a spark problem becuase if it was it would be flooding a cylinder and that would be obvious on the plug. however that fouling may have been burnt off as soom as it gets running good. may still be a bad coil or wire.

I did a quick check over the vacuum lines, the all seem tight and in good shape.

So, I'm thinking it may be absence of fuel. ie a failing injector. Any idea how I can identify which cylinder is acting up. I know everyone is going to say change your plug wires so I'm on that right now, but any other troubleshooting ideas from the Corvette forum?


Thanks,
john
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 04:58 PM
  #2  
CCA Corvette Parts's Avatar
CCA Corvette Parts
Premium Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 36,838
Likes: 438
From: Manassas Park VA
St. Jude Donor '07-'08,-'13-'14, '16-'17
Default

Clean your MAF

Also look at the plug wires at night to see if they are tossing a spark

Peace
Chip
__________________
..................Click for


Reply
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 05:11 PM
  #3  
03WhiteConv's Avatar
03WhiteConv
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 898
Likes: 25
From: Dallas, TX
Default

Check the exhaust backpressure at the HO2 sensor in the exhaust manifold. If it is much over 2 psi, check the pressure after the cats, rear HO2 sensor. Both should be close. If your cats are getting plugged they will act that way and get progressively worse until the car won't run at all...Go for the easy stuff first.

Ask me know I know.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 06:25 PM
  #4  
Bloodvette's Avatar
Bloodvette
Thread Starter
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 288
Likes: 2
From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Default

so when this happened to you, did your sluggishness go away after the vehicle warmed up? becuase I don't think a warm cat would pass more air than a cold one... I'm thinking theres other more likely possibilities to check first... but I will keep that suggestion in mind! But one thing is that if you are right, that would explain why all the plugs I pulled were identicle. Thanks

Originally Posted by 03WhiteConv
Check the exhaust backpressure at the HO2 sensor in the exhaust manifold. If it is much over 2 psi, check the pressure after the cats, rear HO2 sensor. Both should be close. If your cats are getting plugged they will act that way and get progressively worse until the car won't run at all...Go for the easy stuff first.

Ask me know I know.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 06:30 PM
  #5  
CCA Corvette Parts's Avatar
CCA Corvette Parts
Premium Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 36,838
Likes: 438
From: Manassas Park VA
St. Jude Donor '07-'08,-'13-'14, '16-'17
Default

Originally Posted by Bloodvette
so when this happened to you, did your sluggishness go away after the vehicle warmed up? becuase I don't think a warm cat would pass more air than a cold one... I'm thinking theres other more likely possibilities to check first... but I will keep that suggestion in mind! But one thing is that if you are right, that would explain why all the plugs I pulled were identicle. Thanks
Spray your MAF...

Its a closed loop issue...

or a bad plug wire

Peace
Chip
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 07:35 PM
  #6  
03WhiteConv's Avatar
03WhiteConv
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 898
Likes: 25
From: Dallas, TX
Default

Originally Posted by Bloodvette
so when this happened to you, did your sluggishness go away after the vehicle warmed up? becuase I don't think a warm cat would pass more air than a cold one... I'm thinking theres other more likely possibilities to check first... but I will keep that suggestion in mind! But one thing is that if you are right, that would explain why all the plugs I pulled were identicle. Thanks
Understand completely, when mine started it acted like a normal misfire and was somewhat intermittant. Although it happened more often under acceleration. As the problem progressed, the symptoms changed.

Now, Chip has way more experience than me, by far, so I'd take his advice. Just keep the others in mind BEFORE you go and spend too much money.

The lesson I learned though is that after about 2 1/2 month of great suggestions from members, it turned out to be the last thing we checked!!

For your problem, there is a troubleshooting procedure in the GM service manual that will get you there. Do you have the manuals?
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 01:34 AM
  #7  
Bloodvette's Avatar
Bloodvette
Thread Starter
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 288
Likes: 2
From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by 03WhiteConv
Do you have the manuals?
I do have the GMO service program which has my 99 vette in there. I will check that out tonight thank you for reminding me.

I have another lead however, I am also battling the problem of the passenger door electrical connector causing the computers to go haywire (DIC alarms, passenger window/lock controls not functioning). I've done the liquid electric tape repair on the exposed wires but the problem is still coming back on and off.

Reading up on THAT problem, guys have experienced engine power loss. so I'm shifting gears now to resolve that problem before anything else.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:36 PM
  #8  
Bloodvette's Avatar
Bloodvette
Thread Starter
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 288
Likes: 2
From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Default

I was getting multiple communication faults U1016 on multiple modules. So I looked into the connectors in the doors, tightened them all up by bending the tabs tighter. There was a few very loose ones, and since then, no communication OBD codes and normal power has been restored. So it was not a control device on the engine after all.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To engine miss when cold.... troubleshooting advice?

Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:05 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE