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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hi/Tek/Vette
maybe 25 years ago that might have been true..

Explain why the Pennsylvania State Police cars now exhibit the slogan Soldiers of the Law ..???


there ain't no " Serve and Protect " on them cars

seen on my way back from Corvettes at Carlyle
To "Serve and Protect"....to Serve the corrupt politicians and protect the state's coffers is more like it.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Back to the OP's question...........I prefer the Passport 9500ix.
I feel the Escort/Passports do a better job of not giving false alarms. I have been using them for over 20 years, they just keep getting better......and more expensive.

On the other views, I have found that most LEOs do what they were hired to do and manage to put up with a lot of BS from the public.

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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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thanks for the advice,have a good one friends
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by z06801
I have heard that the instant on is not intended for citation by the manufacture, because its not accurate until it is warmed up and that mode is for observation only. Is this true? doesn't really matter, it seems that instant on and laser are mostly used around city streets neighborhoods where I would never speed anyway. On the open road our highway patrol leaves them on.
Actually the RADAR is already on, just not transmitting until the trigger is pulled.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dewaynemichael
can anyone give me some feedback on radar detectors,i'm tired of getting pulled over when i'm enjoying my c5.thanks
Any one of them will tell you that you are being checked.

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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Mike, the V1 with stealth display has to be one of the best.

I realize this is a little off your original question but I have to add…

Originally Posted by BobAruba
…keep it reasonable and safe…
Originally Posted by Hi/Tek/Vette
Sooooo ... since it is about SAFETY, You just gave out Warnings, right ..?? ..??
Not to bust Your *****, Bob, but if someone is traveling 62 mph, in a Posted 55 mph Zone ...
Who ... is the Injured Party ..??
HiTek, "62 mph, in a Posted 55 mph Zone..." Was it during daylight hours or was it nighttime? Up a hill or down? Raining or clear? Was snow or ice present? Heavy, light traffic or were other vehicles present? Divided highway or two-lane road? Was the road marked or unmarked (painted lines)? Was it generally a residential or commercial area? Not to bust you, HiTek, but a lot of variables come into play, my friend.

Personally I would attempt to be aware of my speed at all times while underway and if I were transitioning from a PS of 60 to a new PS of 55 I would attempt to adjust my speed accordingly… and use common sense pertaining to all of the conditions present.

On the subject of close calls… would it be considered "going overboard" when stopping a vehicle that was traveling 3 to 4 MPH over well into a posted school zone with the flashing caution light blinking in a 20 MPH zone while kids were all over the place? Not an easy call, huh?

Originally Posted by BobAruba
…their desire to serve and protect…
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Originally Posted by Hi/Tek/Vette

maybe 25 years ago that might have been true..

Explain why the Pennsylvania State Police cars now exhibit the slogan Soldiers of the Law ..???

there ain't no " Serve and Protect " on them cars

seen on my way back from Corvettes at Carlyle
HiTek, I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t think any citizen that is in need of an officer’s presence would say anything about their community “black & white” vehicle slogans. In retrospect I see nothing wrong with the PA SP slogan on their vehicles. In the context of the slogan… they are. With a little luck you may never find yourself needing a LEO’s intervention in a life-threatening event.

That said I recently returned from a great evening ride along our winding intercoastal waterway with a PS of 35 MPH. I spotted two local LEOs monitoring traffic at different spots and reflected silently to myself… I’m glad they’re there… God bless ‘em.

You fellas take care and enjoy your Vettes.

Bob
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flynbyu2
Actually the RADAR is already on, just not transmitting until the trigger is pulled.
well what ever they do my V1 picks it up a hell of a long way out so its fine with me. god bless them for sure. I know they have to deal with a lot of crazy crap. Speeding on the open road by people who drive paying attention is not the cause of any problem.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Professor, you don't have any idea what you're talking about until you've walked a mile in a cop's shoes. I had a teaching degree until I decided the law was a better career for me, so I left teaching and spent the next 23 as a cop until retirement. So you see, I've walked in your shoes already and I didn't care for the fit.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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There has been some good posts to this thread. And sorry to the wise crack that caught my spelling typo, you don't need to be sad. Like one of the other gentleman described in his post, I've worked some nasty crashes involving all kinds of vehicles, and corvettes and their owners don't do very well when they crash at high speeds. Remember, most corvettes are fiberglass, and break apart and offer almost little to no protection during high speed rollovers or other crashes. Since I'm a corvette owner myself, and just happen to be in law Enforcement, I was merely offering my point of view on this subject matter. Traffic Enforcement is just one of the many services you pay me to perform. For the record, each month I usually have more DUI, Warrant, and Fugitive arrests than traffic tickets from speeders. In the state that I work, my training and experience has afforded me the opportunity to be as accurate as possible when visually estimating speed, and state law allows us to use an approximate standard. Since integrity is one my strong attributes, when I'm not 100% sure which car is the speeding target, I LET THEM ALL GO. Fugitives, women and children abusers, and other criminal cowards aren't usually so lucky.
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Originally Posted by BobAruba
In retrospect I see nothing wrong with the PA SP slogan on their vehicles. In the context of the slogan… they are. With a little luck you may never find yourself needing a LEO’s intervention in a life-threatening event.

Bob
Now, Bob ...

YOU .. haven't answered the Original Question ..

Permit me to repeat it


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Originally Posted by Hi/Tek/Vette
Sooooo ... since it is about SAFETY, You just gave out Warnings, right ..?? ..??
Not to bust Your *****, Bob, but if someone is traveling 62 mph, in a Posted 55 mph Zone ...
Who ... is the Injured Party ..??

Further ..

can You name 3 Elements of a Cause of Action ..??


And, on the other Topic ..
I personally find it reprehensible they display that crap on a car paid for by the Public
whats next ..???

Full SWAT gear, full Auto weapons on every Traffic Stop ..??

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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Airforce 1
Remember, most corvettes are fiberglass, and break apart and offer almost little to no protection during high speed rollovers or other crashes.
Body panels have absolutely nothing to do with the strength of the chassis or safety of the vehicle. also keep in mind most of the body panels are plastic, not composite. corvettes are actually pretty safe. id rather be in my vette in a crash than say something like a civic or cavalier. When designing a vehicle that goes 175 mph, many extra safety precautions must be taken into account.
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SaberD
Body panels have absolutely nothing to do with the strength of the chassis or safety of the vehicle. also keep in mind most of the body panels are plastic, not composite. corvettes are actually pretty safe. id rather be in my vette in a crash than say something like a civic or cavalier. When designing a vehicle that goes 175 mph, many extra safety precautions must be taken into account.
yea .. '
look at at Smart Cars... great crash resistance for such a small envelope wrapped in plastic

Personally ..I don't need any further re-inforcement of the Law Enforcement mindset

it's so blatantly obvious in this thread

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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Radar detectors dont help when you pass an unmarked car going 116 mph hahahahaha!!!!
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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"I hold a current radar operator license and I can tell you that by the time my beam sees you, it's too late. "

That is not true for every instance.

I have used radar detectors since 1978. The 2 or 3 radar tickets I have "earned" since then were when the detector was in one of my other vehicles.
Back in the day, radar units had to warmed up, and emitted a strong signal all the time when in use. It was easy to pick up radar way before getting into range, even with the old primitive Fuzzbuster II I started out with.
When the cloaked "instant on" units were introduced, the tides turned, making it much harder to slow down before it's "too late". After some research and talking to a few LEO's, I learned that most units send out multiple radar signals and average the speed. If the different speeds are drastically different from each other, the radar unit puts out an error code instead of the speed.
32 years of radar detector use and almost a million miles of driving have taught me this:
If the detector goes from silence to a full tilt, every-light alert instantly, you have just been hit with instant-on. Unless someone is close behind you, HIT THE BRAKES AS FAST AND AS HARD AS YOU CAN. If you are quick enough, this will confuse the radar unit and eliminate any reading.
I have used this technique literally hundreds of times over the years and gotten away with it every time. I have had cops point or shake a fist at me over this. A few have even pulled me over and yelled at me, and I have had a warning or two written for this. No tickets, though. How would it look in court when the officer is asked why his expensive unit and all his radar training was not used?
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jdot
Professor, you don't have any idea what you're talking about until you've walked a mile in a cop's shoes. I had a teaching degree until I decided the law was a better career for me, so I left teaching and spent the next 23 as a cop until retirement. So you see, I've walked in your shoes already and I didn't care for the fit.
I am sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say here. A cop is a "more intelligent" profession than a college professor, or more important or what??? As usual the main response is that leos save lives stopping people going 2000 miles per hour and killing hundreds of innocent bystanders!!!! Or if your wife is being raped, who you going to call??? Some wimpie prof? I'm 6'2' and a former SEAL by the way. Read my post and understand it. I said radar detectors work, that was my point, which most leos try to say don't. That is a fact. If I had a dollar for every cop that passed me at an extremely high rate of speed without lights or siren and than saw him pull into a bear cave or donut shop with no reason for his behavior I would be retired. If it makes you feel "better" to carry a gun and a badge than a textbook, knock yourself out. We need both in America. I know some great Leos, some of my best frineds as a matter of fact, but that doesn't make any statement you make up is correct. And please don't go back to the way overused, "We are just there to serve and protect the public from itself". Give me a break.
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