Yea...."Right" down foolish! Drivers who drive high RPMs like that were the reason 2001s got a bum reputation for burning oil. GM never figured there would be fools out there driving them around at high RPM without a load.

Buy a CAGS defeat and a CLB, and never look back.

 

...and some peeps have no cents

Hey BTW Bill...how do you get away with no front tag in Va. Beach?
Maybe because you have a beautiful Yellow Vert?

 

 

Great reply!!!!

 

Are you serious??? Driving a 5000-6000 RPM red line car up to 2500 rpms is bad for the engine?????

Actually these cars WERE made to be driven... You should come to an NCM HPDE and watch and talk to the GM Performance folks that come out to watch the cars they designed run at high RPMS and high speeds and see what they have to say about this....

 

Yello95: I roll the dice on that missing front plate. The local police have told me it is a "no points, fix-it-ticket" so I take my chances on getting stopped... BTW: I do put it on when I travel up the interstate toward Richmond as those Virginia state troopers do not have any sense of humor.

Take care!

 

im pretty sure im not driving my car "wrong". i like to shift at about 2k rpm. pretty comfortable. i'm not drag racing at every light. when i push the clutch in and the light is on, i'm at around 20mph. on my 02z at least, that puts 4th at a hair under 1k rpm. sometimes i do keep my foot in it past 2400rpm just to bypass the cags, but i think it's stupid to HAVE to do it. I have considered just getting the car tuned, but its a bone stock z with a K&N intake. I could be wrong, but I don't imagine i'd get much out of it except bypassing the cags and a healthy weight reduction to my wallet (or my cc, which wouldnt make my car goes anyway..sigh..haha)

 

i've had the car for about 2 weeks. its a daily driver and i hate the cags everyday haha. cags is definitely the thing i cant wait to get rid of.

 

I installed the cags bypass and haven't looked back! Cheap and easy problem to fix...

 

If you like to shift at 2k RPM's then the CAGS will NEVER come into play.... You have to shift in the 1200-1400 area for the CAGS to want to throw you to 4th and 1400 RPM's is too little for even 2nd...

SO, if you're shifting as you say you do "about 2k rpm" then all will be fine.

For CAGS to come into play you also have to be attempting the shift from 1st at 19 MPH or less. IS there really any good reason why anyone would be shifting this soon?

Give it a little more time, you'll see.....

 

...and about the front tag...you are lucky so far...I got busted by a motorcycle leo in 2004 right after I got my new Vette and had the front tag in the trunk waiting for a front surround bracket and he wouldn't even give me a chance to show him the receipt for the bracket on order and I went to court and made a fool out of him in front of a packed court room that applauded the Judge after he scolded the LEO for wasting the courts time and the Judge apologized to me for the harrassment the officer gave me about the tag without letting me show him the tag and receipt in my trunk...it was wild...since then I have had my tag on the front because the same leo has been watching me(I see him all the time) for the past 6 years just waiting for me to take the tag off...now thats one sicko bastich

 

I understand... I hope they have more important issues than my front plate but you never know when it will be an issue.

 

Bring the rpm's up in first gear until the skip shift lamp comes on and try to shift to second. If it does not go into second and only will go into fourth then there is no bypass installed.

 

I just installed a CAGS eliminator 2 hours ago using my dads lift. It's so much better now, especially in traffic!

 

I'm a fan of the cags eliminator as I see no need for the car to tell me when to shift, and I think it comes in handy in a LIMITED amount of slow speed situations. And yes, I understand the cafe part of the whole thing.
If you are really getting this worked up over it (and I hate to admit this) but now I am siding with the people that say that you need to drive it "right".

 

Never really an issue for me. I drive in city traffic a lot and don't really see it being an issue. You don't have to drive it hard to get around the CAGS.

If it bothers you then get the bypass and all will be solved

 

haha im not really getting worked up, i just think its incredibly stupid. and for those of you who say im not driving my car "right", why would they ever bother to install a 1st to 4th light? so when i drive "wrong" according to you, i pay for it by being in 4th gear? What i hate is when i go to shift when im leaving a light, and then at 20mph, i go to shift to 2, i am forced to 4, and then i wait for the revs to drop so i can match rev to gear. that sudden pause in acceleration is not something drivers behind me are expecting. i dont know about you guys, but i never expect someone in front of me to suddenly stop accelerating away from a light. so my choices at that point are either, put it in 4th and get that snapping sensation when the motor is suddenly forced to drop a thousand rpms, or let it drop until the revs match the speed in 4th gear. i just cant figure out what the purpose of the whole 1 to 4 thing is. I know its easy to bypass and I will do that.

and glenm27, i dont know what you drive, but its apparently not the same car as mine. my car definitely shows the shift light at 2000-2400 rpm at abou 20% throttle. any more throttle, the let doesnt come on. any less rpm and the light doesnt come on.

bdiddle, i dont know how buying a bypass is going to not let me "get to know my vette." i must be a terrible driver. do i have to shift at 3000rpm? do you know something the original engineers on this car didnt know? have i been shifting wrong all my life, even on the racetrack?

 

With a cags bypass you don't have to wind it up all the time!! I frequently short shift and skip gears,,,and WHEN i stay fairly disciplined,,I get in the 20's in city driving!!These cars have a ton of low end torque,,and will pull taller gears at pretty low RPM!! If you actually KNOW how to drive,,you can do some fairly low RPM cruising,,and you know if you are starting to lug the motor. Just for the record,,I've been driving sticks for more years than many here have been around,,,and for the record,,I've ALSO have cranked off a 13.08 at 110.24 in the very same car that I get in the the low twenties in city driving!!It is nice to be able to choose how you want to drive at the time!! I DO like to make her sing,,,just not all the time!!

 

never understand the big deal about cags just shift at 2500 rpm and your good.

 

If you drive agressively, CAGS won't engage, for me it doesn't. If I drive normal, it does kick in and I don't mind once in a while. You have to have the correct speed, rpm, vaccum for the computer to allow CAGS to engages, you may have an issue with yours. When I drive a little agressively, it never comes in play, ever.... You may want to have GM look at that. I even tested it and drove like my mother, and it does what it suppose to do...