How do you shift w/ your cags bypass??
Team Owner
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From: Down the Shore New Jersey, Elev.3 feet
St. Jude Donor '17
I have the cags but around town I hardly ever leave 4th...usually 1-2-3-4 going down the shore or up to Conn. is when I use 5th and 6th. No need for them unless you are doing over 60 I feel.
Racer
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From: Houston Texas
I have CAGS, but hardly ever notice and shift 1-2-3-4 as needed. On the rare occasion I pull 1-2 before the car thinks I should be ready, I just hold the clutch down an extra beat which lets the rpms drop enough to release the solenoid and then shift into second.
The cadence is the same for me as a double-clutch used with an un-synchronized transmission.
The cadence is the same for me as a double-clutch used with an un-synchronized transmission.
Drifting
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From: Harrisburg Pa.
Instructor
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From: Medford NY
Since we effectively killed the CAGS I've always maintained the shift pattern 1-2-3-4-5-6... dependent upon what the speed limit is. I never alter or skip a gear. I may not shift into a higher gear if road conditions and posted speeds do not allow it.
This practice of maintaining the shift pattern has served me well and has become second nature for me. I may shift sooner (1500 - 2k RPM) while accelerating slower than normal when traffic is light but I always maintain the shift pattern.
If I do (downshift) I'll maintain the shift pattern in reverse while attempting to bring the RPMs up to facilitate a smooth transition while downshifting.
I thought I had fun with a 4-speed '69 Vette I owned for over twenty years until I bought the 6-speed '99 Hardtop. This is fun.
Bob
This practice of maintaining the shift pattern has served me well and has become second nature for me. I may shift sooner (1500 - 2k RPM) while accelerating slower than normal when traffic is light but I always maintain the shift pattern.
If I do (downshift) I'll maintain the shift pattern in reverse while attempting to bring the RPMs up to facilitate a smooth transition while downshifting.
I thought I had fun with a 4-speed '69 Vette I owned for over twenty years until I bought the 6-speed '99 Hardtop. This is fun.
Bob
I never worried about the bypass because my natural inclination is to go from 1 to 2 after the rpms are passed for the forced 1-4
Melting Slicks
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From: Holland Landing Ontario
My car had the eliminator when I bought it, but when in traffic around town I find myself skipping gears quite often. Usually 1-3 and then 4 or 5 depending on the situation. Sometimes I do 1-4. No real reason; just lazy I guess. I like to have the choice.
When I first installed my MGW, I found myself starting in 3rd on several occasions
and shifting from 4th to 3rd when I was looking for 5th. Of course these occurences were not by choice.
When I first installed my MGW, I found myself starting in 3rd on several occasions
and shifting from 4th to 3rd when I was looking for 5th. Of course these occurences were not by choice.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Belleville Il
A lot of unneeded RPM's you're using there!!! These cars have tremendous low end torque,,and will pull a high gear at pretty low RPM as long as you are not pulling hard or going up inclined road way!! Our town has the country's longest "MAIN STREET",,and a lot of it is pretty flat,,and can cruise at the 35 MPH speed limit in 6th!! Now I must add,, I've been driving stick shifts for a very LONG time,,and know how to listen to and feel the drive train,,and can tell if the motor is starting to "lug". You DO NOT try to accelerate at this low RPM,,you just maintain momentum with a feathered throttle. BUT you do not need to be doing over 60!!
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Le Mans Master
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From: Belleville Il
I agree with vafirevet, there's just something about running through all the gears, even just to short-shift at around 3000 or 3500 RPM - not quite in the powerband but close enough to hear that sweet sounding exhaust note flare up a bit! I'm still running stock exhaust so I like to get the RPM up there to hear it sing.
Not really going to hurt anything,,again just running higher RPM than necessary!! 4th is 1 to 1,,just like 4th in the old 4speeds. At the strip,,I was going through the traps in 4th at a tad over 110,,and has lots of tach to go(wasn't really looking down at over 110 to see exactly what RPM I was turning
)!! So 50-55 is not a big deal,,just wasting gas is all!!
Last edited by itzza427; Oct 14, 2010 at 07:24 PM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Rochester New York
No you do not. You can eliminate CAGS with a tune, at least with EFI Live you can.
4th gear cruising at 50-60MPH is probably not as efficient as 5th gear. Try 5th at those speeds, the load difference is insignificant. 6th gear I only use at 60+MPH on expressway's.
4th gear cruising at 50-60MPH is probably not as efficient as 5th gear. Try 5th at those speeds, the load difference is insignificant. 6th gear I only use at 60+MPH on expressway's.
Drifting
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From: Harrisburg Pa.
I like hearing the piped too ,,pretty often in fact!! BUT 3,000-3,500 is WAY past what the thread is about,,,3,500 ,,even in 2nd is WAY over city speed limits!! I'm talking when you are putting around in city traffic!! No real point in trying to wind it up!!
Not really going to hurt anything,,again just running higher RPM than necessary!! 4th is 1 to 1,,just like 4th in the old 4speeds. At the strip,,I was going through the traps in 4th at a tad over 110,,and has lots of tach to go(wasn't really looking down at over 110 to see exactly what RPM I was turning)!! So 50-55 is not a big deal,,just wasting gas is all!!
Not really going to hurt anything,,again just running higher RPM than necessary!! 4th is 1 to 1,,just like 4th in the old 4speeds. At the strip,,I was going through the traps in 4th at a tad over 110,,and has lots of tach to go(wasn't really looking down at over 110 to see exactly what RPM I was turning
)!! So 50-55 is not a big deal,,just wasting gas is all!!
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Le Mans Master
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From: Belleville Il
At 55 I'd have been in 6th long before,,unless I was really stepping on it to get up to speed!!1500 in 6th will give you about 70-75!! As stated before,,the low end torque will pull higher gearing/low RPM quite well,,as long as you don't try to accelerate quickly or up an incline!! Within the given parameters,,you can loaf along in 6th quite well!!
Melting Slicks
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From: Rochester New York
At 55 I'd have been in 6th long before,,unless I was really stepping on it to get up to speed!!1500 in 6th will give you about 70-75!! As stated before,,the low end torque will pull higher gearing/low RPM quite well,,as long as you don't try to accelerate quickly or up an incline!! Within the given parameters,,you can loaf along in 6th quite well!!
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From: I'll Keep My Guns , Freedom And Money. You Keep The Change. FL
Le Mans Master
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From: cold & windy
i accidentally did... once! 
A lot of unneeded RPM's you're using there!!! These cars have tremendous low end torque,,and will pull a high gear at pretty low RPM as long as you are not pulling hard or going up inclined road way!! Our town has the country's longest "MAIN STREET",,and a lot of it is pretty flat,,and can cruise at the 35 MPH speed limit in 6th!! Now I must add,, I've been driving stick shifts for a very LONG time,,and know how to listen to and feel the drive train,,and can tell if the motor is starting to "lug". You DO NOT try to accelerate at this low RPM,,you just maintain momentum with a feathered throttle. BUT you do not need to be doing over 60!!
shoot, when cruising around base in pensacola (which is pretty flat), i'll regularly do 30 in 5th & 40 in 6th... but then again, my 3.42s contribute a little to that 
possible 3.90s in the future
A lot of unneeded RPM's you're using there!!! These cars have tremendous low end torque,,and will pull a high gear at pretty low RPM as long as you are not pulling hard or going up inclined road way!! Our town has the country's longest "MAIN STREET",,and a lot of it is pretty flat,,and can cruise at the 35 MPH speed limit in 6th!! Now I must add,, I've been driving stick shifts for a very LONG time,,and know how to listen to and feel the drive train,,and can tell if the motor is starting to "lug". You DO NOT try to accelerate at this low RPM,,you just maintain momentum with a feathered throttle. BUT you do not need to be doing over 60!! possible 3.90s in the future
