LS1 Cam and Head Drivability
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LS1 Cam and Head Drivability
The goal is to install the most aggressive cam/heads possible without compromising drivability of my stock C5 LS1 with a six speed. After a great deal of research and sound bites I found the following: AFR 205cc LS1 Mongoose Street Head - Milling for 11.0 to 1 and a Comp Cam P/N 54-444-11 with XE-R lobe designs, 224/230 duration, 581/588 Lift, LSA 114. Would like feedback on the drivability of this combination and if 91 octane fuel will run without any problems.
Future mods would be a FAST Intake and Long Tube Headers—any guess what the RWHP would be after all the mods?
Thanks Paul
Future mods would be a FAST Intake and Long Tube Headers—any guess what the RWHP would be after all the mods?
Thanks Paul
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The other cam/heads package I was considering is at the Corvette Forum Store: 99-04 C5 Level 3 - Race (SKU 11118023)
(RPM Range 3000-7000) Up to 120HP Increase.
Rough idle, Auto w/High Stall Converter or 6 Speed Manual~Cam Specs: 232/232 Duration, .575/.575 Lift, 112 Lobe Center~
The sound bite sounds good/manageable but wondering if this cam will surge in first gear at 15 to 25 MPH for a daily driver? What are your thoughts on this cam and how good are the heads in this package? I would save a few hundred dollars going with this package versus AFR.
(RPM Range 3000-7000) Up to 120HP Increase.
Rough idle, Auto w/High Stall Converter or 6 Speed Manual~Cam Specs: 232/232 Duration, .575/.575 Lift, 112 Lobe Center~
The sound bite sounds good/manageable but wondering if this cam will surge in first gear at 15 to 25 MPH for a daily driver? What are your thoughts on this cam and how good are the heads in this package? I would save a few hundred dollars going with this package versus AFR.
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I run a custom Bullet Cam
Patriot Stage II Heads 10.9 compression
222/222/.575 113
Great Lopey Idle and pulls great on the street.
Ran it before and after I went FI.
Patriot Stage II Heads 10.9 compression
222/222/.575 113
Great Lopey Idle and pulls great on the street.
Ran it before and after I went FI.
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You will be fine with that small of a cam. I drive my MS3 with alot of stop and go with no problems.
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Anybody have experience with the (WCC) West Coast Corvette heads? They are a few hundred less than the AFR 205s.
It sounds like since I have a 6 speed I should go with a 112 LSA. So I am focusing more on a Comp Cam XFI 228/230 571/573 LSA 112. What advantages would this cam have over the XER 224/230 581/588 LSA 114?
It sounds like since I have a 6 speed I should go with a 112 LSA. So I am focusing more on a Comp Cam XFI 228/230 571/573 LSA 112. What advantages would this cam have over the XER 224/230 581/588 LSA 114?
Last edited by Paul__; Dec 27, 2010 at 02:42 PM.
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There's way too much emphasis on choosing your LSA. Very little difference in drivability, or performance at that duration level. IMO, you should do the LTs first, and then decide on a H/C combo. Also, for aftermarket heads, I'd recommend Trickflow over AFR.
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C6 Batmobile, XSPOWER and Leprkon showed me how to install a Comp Cam 228 230 585 588 113 lsa cam and all the trimmings a couple of weeks ago. Idle after dyno tune set at 875,,,,no drivability issues here. The new TQ and HP is a ton of fun!
I will add the heads and intake later!
I will add the heads and intake later!
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http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=169&catid=44 <-- Largest cam I'd go with for street driving with a 6-speed. And I'd stick with 114 LSA or higher (112+2 if possible)
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i'm running a TSP 228R cam with a 112 LSA. It chops at idle but it's got great street manners. The street manners mostly are from the tune. A great tune can get an aggressive cam to feel like a baby cam.
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Got a video clip or something to hear the chop? I've been trying to figure out what cam I want, and that's one of the ones I've been considering.
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My heads and cam are being installed this week. I went with the Patriot Stage 2 heads, comp cam w/ .588 lift, 224-228 and 114lsa. Already have ARH headers, B&B PRT cat back and SLP Blackwing.
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i don't really have a good clip of it. i have one but it's indoors and you can't hear it and the other is of it WOT on the dyno 
that doesn't really let ya hear the chop It's not real aggressive of a chop but when it's cold you can tell it's cammed.
that doesn't really let ya hear the chop It's not real aggressive of a chop but when it's cold you can tell it's cammed.
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Anybody have experience with the (WCC) West Coast Corvette heads? They are a few hundred less than the AFR 205s.
It sounds like since I have a 6 speed I should go with a 112 LSA. So I am focusing more on a Comp Cam XFI 228/230 571/573 LSA 112. What advantages would this cam have over the XER 224/230 581/588 LSA 114?
It sounds like since I have a 6 speed I should go with a 112 LSA. So I am focusing more on a Comp Cam XFI 228/230 571/573 LSA 112. What advantages would this cam have over the XER 224/230 581/588 LSA 114?
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what is a 112+2?
Cam I am highly considering....the popular AFR 6016.
AFR 6016 Cam
