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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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I hope this is news to you guy's I'm quite sure you'll love it!
Even I find it hard to believe!
http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...threadid=69325
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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Must have been that "forth" gear he has.
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Why..? In an RX-7 tt 362 rwhp gets you low elevens...386 rwhp gets you high tens/11.0 sec flat..
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 11:56 PM
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I'll never understand why people with highly modified cars brag about outrunning stock cars. Yes, I'm making an assumption the Z06 was stock, but I think you get my point.
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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maybe the rx8 will have somthing for us (but i doubt it) :smash:
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 01:14 AM
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A Z06 will crush an RX-8...It's a 4 seat sedan...
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 02:52 AM
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[QUOTE]I hope this is news to you guy's I'm quite sure you'll love it!
Even I find it hard to believe!


Still trying to convice us to sell our Vettes, dont you ever learn
:rolleyes: , I wasnt there to see this race so I will not comment on it, but here is some food for thought you pesky little ricer, STOCK Z06 1/4 times, mid to low 12's, Stock TT Rx-7 1/4 times mid to low 14's :rolleyes:(2 seconds = about 20 cars in the 1/4 , end of story. Is it me or dont ricers seem like those pesky flys that bug the hell out of you in the summer when you are sitting outside on the porch trying to enjoy a beer, they pester you and pester you until SMACK SQUASH, no more pesky flys :D , those ricers kind of sound like insects on crack , so this is a good analogy.
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:13 AM
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Default Re: RX7 vs ZO6 (dave zehak)

Get off the crack Dave...stock Rx-7's run mid to high 13's..I've seen a 13.2 (Besides read the article, it wasn't stock so being stock has zero to do with anything..I don't think there is any argument that a stock ten year old car is going to be as fast as a new 405 hp Z06 costing 50,000 plus.)...I'll be waiting for you to post a kill so I can complain you have mods :rolleyes: Ricer...? You're the guy running NAAAAAAWS.... :lol:


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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 05:31 AM
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even this guys own buddys find this hard to belive......

I'll never understand why people with highly modified cars brag about outrunning stock cars.
these are the same people that run around and say size doesn't matter, cuz they have little d's. they are making up for what they don't have, a true American muscle car!!!!

long live the Z06 :flag


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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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I find that very hard to believe based on the short list of Mods the RX-7 has.
Maybe he raced a C5 and not a Z06.
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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It's just like letters to Penthouse magazine! Big fantasies with big weenies, yaking about the giant conquest that's just too good to be totally true.

In other words; a total load of crap!

Street racing matches two cars of unknown origin with two drivers of dubious credibility, on a street with unknown and likely less-than-optimal character. It shouldn't take a Statistics major to see the "test" is not valid.

So some over-boosted RX-7 takes on some dweeb in a ZO6 and "wins" from rolling starts... whatever.

In real-world racing, where cars are classified to create a semblance of order, the ZO6 is stomping the crap out of the RX7's right now, especially on the national level. In the SCCA the Gen3 RX7's once ruled, today they are falling to ZO6's; both '01 and '02 vintages.

I had the enjoyment of taking my totally stock, unlowered, 1,200 mile on the clock '02 Z to an auto-X practice day, where I met up with three BMW M coupes. One of those M coupe's was driven by an individual that, on a previous occasion, commented how he had stomped several ZO6's, that they were fast on the top end, but couldn't keep up with his mighty BMW on the low end, or on tight roads. His car has been lowered and modded with Bilstein Shocks and H&R Springs, and set up with 2.5 degrees negative camber at the front, 2.2 degrees rear, as well as all the Dinan intake and software mods.

End of the day, his best in his modded coupe a 69.60, my best in the new and totally stock ZO6, a 68.02. The other two M coupes had similar mods, but never came near me all day. After he fitted his Coupe with a set of race tires, he was able to finally beat my time with a best of 67.30. So, it took a second year Auto-X veteran, a total suspension re-do and a set of race tires to surpass a not-yet broken in, totally bone stock ZO6, with a novice Corvette driver, with just three total auto-x practice days under my belt. I'd say the ZO6 held its own just fine for me.

There was another ZO6 at the practice, an '01 running Hoosiers and Penske shocks, who took best time of the day with a 64 flat, a full 3.3 seconds better than the modded Coupe on race tires.

On the race day following, a Mazda '93 RX7 R2 took first in SS, followed by the only ZO6 running that day (same one as in practice) by just .8s on a 60 second course, who beat three other RX7's in the process, the closest a full 1.3s off the ZO6's time. Meanwhile another highly modified ASP M Coupe best was over .6s off the ZO6's time, and .5s off the ASP class winning '93 RX7.

That single ZO6 beat every RX7 time of the day, except one.

Oh yeah, of the 264 vehicles that ran, 12 of them were Corvettes. Only 14 vehicles ran faster than 60 seconds all day, 4 of them were Corvettes, 2 were Gokarts, 3 were RX7's, two of them modified. The ZO6 was even faster than one of the Gokarts! That left the remaining sub-60 second runs to a Formula Vee, a modified Datsun 510, a modified Camaro SS, a modified Datsun 260Z, and a hopped up and over-boosted Subaru WRX. Fastest valid time of the day was a '96 Corvette in B Prepared!

Now THAT is what I call real-live competition! :yesnod: :cheers:
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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Normjack, One of my buddies ran a 12.3 with just a dp,catback and an ecu. Another guy from (T@R Racing, place in N.Y.) claims a 12.0 flat with the same mods. A couple summers back I ran my buddies Viper GTS (97) with a downpipe, catback ecu and 2 K@N's I could slowly pull him. We switched drivers same results. These little cars are light, mine weighs 2570 lbs so you start pushing 340-400 rwhp and they are pretty quick. As for the race posted in this thread, remember it took place at 4500 ft. BIG advantage for a forced induction car vs a normally aspirated car. :cheers:
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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On the race day following, a Mazda '93 RX7 R2 took first in SS, followed by the only ZO6 running
So a stock 10-year-old RX7 did beat the Z06... :eek: :cry :cry
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Nice response but has nothing to do with this thread...this wasn't an autocross course, it was straight line racing..I would hope a new car with 405 hp would be able to beat a car that has a 10 year old chassis design. Big feat :rolleyes: I still think it is amazing the RX-7 dominated that class for 6 years and it took all this time and 405 hp vs 255 hp for chevy to catch it. BTW: The Rx-7 is the most winning car in IMSA history with over 111 wins, second place went to the 911 with 69. It also won in the GTO class as well as the GTU. It dominated the camel light series as well as the enduro class and the other 2 classes.(multiple national champion) It also was a road rally champion and won Lemans. The 787b won Lemans outright (beat everything).And as you mentioned it was a national autocross champion 6 years in a row (parking lot races, not what I consider the pinacle of racing) It also won at spa Defrancor championships. It also won the firehawk series multiple times. (national champion). Pikes peak champion as well. The RX-7 platform has proven to be a very vesitile racing platform from road rally, to road racing and even drag racing (7 sec cars should pop into the 6's shortly) sorry but you needed to be enlightened... :yesnod: These are just off the top of my head, The car has many more victories...
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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No, The Rx-7 wasn't stock...
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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yada, yada yada.
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The RX-7 is old news.
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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Default Re: RX7 vs ZO6 (Dreamin)

On the race day following, a Mazda '93 RX7 R2 took first in SS, followed by the only ZO6 running...

So a stock 10-year-old RX7 did beat the Z06...
Yep, a 10 year old RX7 with a driver who has a long history of wins with that car. Excellent setup, beautiful driving style, and a very good car to begin with. It's a very hard combination to beat. I like watching his runs, regardless of what car he drives. :cheers:

I'd love to see him drive a more up-to-date piece of equipment. Say, maybe an '03 ZO6? :smash:
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Why..? He's beating the Z06's... :smash: :lol: How old is that car 9 years..10 years..?? :lol: If he needs to upgrade he should go to an 2002 RX-7 tt RS..Mazda claims 12.6's in the 1/4 and a the car has much better suspension/chassis...ashame it not imported here. but like the C6 the new RX-7 should come back in 2004.. :yesnod: I can't wait to see how it fares with a 10 year old Z06 in the future.. :lol:
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Nice response but has nothing to do with this thread...this wasn't an autocross course... parking lot races, not what I consider the pinacle of racing...
Until you are the forum moderator, the choice of what is relevant here is not yours.

While I am not an advocate that Auto-X is anything more than great entertainment (and fun), I find it considerably more valid than street racing, which is exactly what the point of the post, which is completely relevant here. I have seen some really excellent driving at parking-lot races. More than I can say of any public highway contest.

As far as Pro results are concerned, with Pro drivers in Professionally prepared cars... I think you'll find that Chevrolet, and Corvettes, have been in the record books and win columns for some time as well (you might have to do a little digging. :lol:) That load of trivia and $2.49 will purchase a small Cafe' Latte at Starbucks, but it doesn't make the cars any faster or
quiicker. :cheers:
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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And I guess the vette's history is old news also....
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