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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but lawyering up only causes a dealer and/or GM to lawyer up. And they have bigger pockets. I've seen too many people try "lemon laws," only to see the thing get dragged out adnauseum.

Still, a quick lawyer up to negotiate a settlement might be the quickest route. You want a car that runs, and they want you to go away. Maybe somewhere in the middle is the easiest and quickest solution.

Good luck man!
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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Repo isn't the answer in my opinion. You lose on that deal 100%. If you can persevere through this, you have resale value at that point and can at least recover somewhat. You have to keep the pressure on and let them know your not going away.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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^ At least it looks terrific while sitting there.



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That would suck having your credit hit, even though the repo is voluntary. The last slap the car has given you, probably worse than it's mechanical issues. I hope you get a sweet replacement. You deserve some good car luck right about now...
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Engine been replaced twice and it's still blowing springs? Something is not adding up here. Not on your part but the part of of whoever replaced the engine.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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"Your best loss is your first loss".

A very wise and sneaky used car maven told me that. You need to get rid of the car.

You will lose big time by letting them repo the car. Keep paying the monthly payment until this plays out. Your credit rating will appreciate it.

Trade it in to a chevy dealer who has the resources to fix it correctly and re-sell it. Be up front about it's problems. You'll take a hit but not tooooo big of one. Sweeten the deal by purchasing it's replacemnt from them using it as part of the deal.

I've been where you are and it's not worth the stomach lining.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Move it over 10 feet and make it a yard ornament
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Oil Apologist
I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but lawyering up only causes a dealer and/or GM to lawyer up. And they have bigger pockets. I've seen too many people try "lemon laws," only to see the thing get dragged out adnauseum.

Still, a quick lawyer up to negotiate a settlement might be the quickest route. You want a car that runs, and they want you to go away. Maybe somewhere in the middle is the easiest and quickest solution.

Good luck man!
Thanks! Ive got a quick settlement prop as we speak. You are correct, they want me to go away by way of "attrition" and it is working...(sort of)

Originally Posted by arctic 92
Repo isn't the answer in my opinion. You lose on that deal 100%. If you can persevere through this, you have resale value at that point and can at least recover somewhat. You have to keep the pressure on and let them know your not going away.
I am going to persevere. I called the finance company. I never delay. They keep notes on everything that is going on. The finance company and the dealer, warranty co. are "one-and-the-same"- I've already made the payment. It just sickens me b/c I also paid the tow fee, and I didn't authorize the car to go back to a GM dealer that had already refused to work on it.

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^ At least it looks terrific while sitting there.



That would suck having your credit hit, even though the repo is voluntary. The last slap the car has given you, probably worse than it's mechanical issues. I hope you get a sweet replacement. You deserve some good car luck right about now...
I imagine I will get a sweet replacement. Gotta get it running first.

Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
Engine been replaced twice and it's still blowing springs? Something is not adding up here. Not on your part but the part of of whoever replaced the engine.
You are correct, I don't want to name any names, I just named the city. The motor was sold to the warranty company by a salvage company. I had to hire a P.I to figure that one out. The motor was crated as if it came from GM, but I didn't know enough at the time to take responsibility (even though it wasn't mine) to get I.D. numbers off of the motor, and an authorized warranty brochure. Live and learn. I wish I had the second chance!

Originally Posted by johnson-rod
"Your best loss is your first loss".

A very wise and sneaky used car maven told me that. You need to get rid of the car.

You will lose big time by letting them repo the car. Keep paying the monthly payment until this plays out. Your credit rating will appreciate it.

Trade it in to a chevy dealer who has the resources to fix it correctly and re-sell it. Be up front about it's problems. You'll take a hit but not tooooo big of one. Sweeten the deal by purchasing it's replacemnt from them using it as part of the deal.

I've been where you are and it's not worth the stomach lining.
Sounds like good advice.

Originally Posted by Haines4
Move it over 10 feet and make it a yard ornament
I'll wash it and wax it and put it on a pedastal that rotates...


B.T.W. It's not covered under "lemon law" technically it's called the Magnuson-Moss warranty act.

The warranty I have specifically states that 3 failures on the same parts make me eligible. They are just putting things off because I am a third party beneficiary to what they will receive (in the LOOOOOONG run) from the company who not only faultily installed the motor and clutch, but also failed to fill out the warranty brochure.


And yes, they do want me to cave in and go away.


Thank you all for your sage advice. Keep it coming. Looking forward to hearing from my friend in Modesto!
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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If the mechanic that was recommended to you turns out to be satisfactory to you, maybe it would be best to pay him to fix it properly and then try to get reimbursed by your warranty company. So many of those aftermarket warranty companies suck. I would never pay extra for one of them. Nothing but headaches. Live and learn. Anyway, good luck to you and we're all so sorry for your problems with the Corvette.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kh400
If the mechanic that was recommended to you turns out to be satisfactory to you, maybe it would be best to pay him to fix it properly and then try to get reimbursed by your warranty company. So many of those aftermarket warranty companies suck. I would never pay extra for one of them. Nothing but headaches. Live and learn. Anyway, good luck to you and we're all so sorry for your problems with the Corvette.

This is part of the problem. IT IS NOT AN AFTERMARKET WARRANTY COMPANY! Sorry, for raising my voice.

This is my third C5 and I've had "aftermarket" warranty companies. I know that they put the "s" in suck.


This warranty is provided by the dealer. Same name. This is what complicates things so much. They are all one company, but when you have problems like this, suddenly they all become "distant relatives" and then when you get sick of paying, they all become instantaneous blood brothers.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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this whole long many thread story makes any of my vehicle problems seem like nothing.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dquagliaroli
Ive read most of the problems you have had with this car and can only wish you the best.
Rather than tell your attorney what you are going to do I would suggest asking him what he can do for you to make it right.

Good Luck!
Likewise, I'd let my lawyer handle it from here on. If they are 1. Going to fix it ? 2. refund ALL of your money thus paid, Or 3. Swap it out for a good citified trade-in.

But I have been reading about your troubles, and I believe I suggested calling the Chevrolet hot line and the warranty company and let them grab their pants and decide who's the biggest, but you don't need a car right so much as you need closure.

Here on the east coast, we have whole law firms who deal in defective cars, damaged repoed lemons and the such. I'm sure you have them out there as well. They advertised in the yellow pages. But if I'm following this correctly, this has to with 1. the dealership from whom you bought the car 2. the warranty company who doesn't want to pay for repairs ( it's very common for insurance companies to do what ever it takes to stall on a claim) and 3, letting the "Angles of your better Nature" have you waiting while this pea and walnut shell game goes on. And 4. It's time for someone to say, give the customer back the money and you'll be on your way.

In a few months, I'd have a free check of your credit rating FICO score to make sure all are happy in credit-land. That's what I'd do. just my $0,02 but good luck. I'm sure your next vehicle won't be another Corvette.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by killain
Likewise, I'd let my lawyer handle it from here on. If they are 1. Going to fix it ? 2. refund ALL of your money thus paid, Or 3. Swap it out for a good citified trade-in.

But I have been reading about your troubles, and I believe I suggested calling the Chevrolet hot line and the warranty company and let them grab their pants and decide who's the biggest, but you don't need a car right so much as you need closure.

Here on the east coast, we have whole law firms who deal in defective cars, damaged repoed lemons and the such. I'm sure you have them out there as well. They advertised in the yellow pages. But if I'm following this correctly, this has to with 1. the dealership from whom you bought the car 2. the warranty company who doesn't want to pay for repairs ( it's very common for insurance companies to do what ever it takes to stall on a claim) and 3, letting the "Angles of your better Nature" have you waiting while this pea and walnut shell game goes on. And 4. It's time for someone to say, give the customer back the money and you'll be on your way.

In a few months, I'd have a free check of your credit rating FICO score to make sure all are happy in credit-land. That's what I'd do. just my $0,02 but good luck. I'm sure your next vehicle won't be another Corvette.

I did indeed take much of your original advice. That is how I got a GM rep involved. Got him on a first name basis. I also got the B.A.R involved. How do I force them to give my money back?
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Man, I wish there was a sure way out of this. Had a friend that bought a Mazada3 (zoom zoom) brand new. Failed three times on the same issue. He hired a lawyer and filed under the Illinois Lemon law. Mazada paraded their lawyers (on retainers) to drag this puppy out as long as possible. In the end, the friend still lost.

They have lawyers that do this full time. You're local lawyer is not going to be a good product lawyer. Everyone involved is going to point at the other guy.

If you want to go after someone and get a settlement, write a check for $10,000 and don't expect to get it back. That's the attitude you have to take to see it to the end and hopefully win. Otherwise, seek the quickest and least painful way out. Just my two cents on this end.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Sorry to here about all the problems.Good luck!
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Oil Apologist
Man, I wish there was a sure way out of this. Had a friend that bought a Mazada3 (zoom zoom) brand new. Failed three times on the same issue. He hired a lawyer and filed under the Illinois Lemon law. Mazada paraded their lawyers (on retainers) to drag this puppy out as long as possible. In the end, the friend still lost.

They have lawyers that do this full time. You're local lawyer is not going to be a good product lawyer. Everyone involved is going to point at the other guy.

If you want to go after someone and get a settlement, write a check for $10,000 and don't expect to get it back. That's the attitude you have to take to see it to the end and hopefully win. Otherwise, seek the quickest and least painful way out. Just my two cents on this end.

O.K let's say your'e right. What is "the quickest and least painful way out" in your opinion?


I have two more years of payments on this car. My attorney is on contingency. Please don't say matches and a field in the middle of timbuktoo...


Finish paying it off? Refi? Get a "friend" to fix it?

How about I go to the local T.V and radio station along with the popular news rag with the story? Maybe drive through a plate glass window? Stand outside their facility and scare customers away?
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Originally Posted by 76 VETTE
Sorry to here about all the problems.Good luck!


Thanks everyone. Just wanna make sure my Vette buds are aware of what's happening. Maybe **** like this will keep it from happening to you. You can learn from my stupid *** mistakes.


Sorry.... I mean't dookie. (and azz)
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Stand outside their facility and scare customers away?[/QUOTE]

This worked for me once at a carpet store.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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What a shame. The car looks pristine!
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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Not sure if this has been suggested but, have you tried contacting the BBB? Also, I work for a finance company of auto loans. A repossession is the LAST thing you should do if you can avoid it. Goes on your credit for 7-10 years and can really hurt. Unless you are pretty well established (own a home, other cars etc) I would seriously consider not letting it get that far, even though I understand how frustrating it is right now. Sorry to hear that bro, God bless.

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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Dude. So sorry about the BS. You have a lemon. Never heard anyone Havering this much trouble with there c5. Get another one. Sell that one in autotrader. Good luck brother.....
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