Enough is Enough...
Pro
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Sugar Land Texas
I've read your posts in the past. I know about the various bs you've gone through.
I don't have any sage advice to give you but I will say that I hope you can find a satisfactory end to all of this. I hope that ending puts you behind the wheel of a reliable Corvette.
Hang in there man!!!!!!
I don't have any sage advice to give you but I will say that I hope you can find a satisfactory end to all of this. I hope that ending puts you behind the wheel of a reliable Corvette.
Hang in there man!!!!!!
Racer
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 469
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From: Heath Texas
Sorry, I don't have a clean way out suggestion. Pros and cons to everything. Just pointed out that lawyering up, you have to mentally write that $10,000 like you'll never see it again.
You said that you had one proposal on the table (to make you go away). If I'm not being too nosey, what are they offering?
You said that you had one proposal on the table (to make you go away). If I'm not being too nosey, what are they offering?
Pro
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: SpringHill Florida
Rent a billboard close to the problem dealership and place an ad like this. Are you considering purchasing a vehicle from xyz dealer?
Ask me about my experience.
(xxx)xxx-xxxx
You can do this because the person will call you and as long as they ask you about your experience you have the right to answer them.This avoids the slander issue.
If you can afford the billboard cost trust me it will get the dealers attention in a hurry.
My car on a rented flatbed using the same message got taken care of real fast. I even still get a birthday and Christmas card from them.
Good luck from a fellow sufferer.....no more.
Ask me about my experience.
(xxx)xxx-xxxx
You can do this because the person will call you and as long as they ask you about your experience you have the right to answer them.This avoids the slander issue.
If you can afford the billboard cost trust me it will get the dealers attention in a hurry.
My car on a rented flatbed using the same message got taken care of real fast. I even still get a birthday and Christmas card from them.
Good luck from a fellow sufferer.....no more.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,400
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From: Gboro/H-point/Reidsville NC
Go to the local news stations and the papers! Let the news run a story on the whole thing. I'll bet within a day the dealer will call and want the car!
Evey person I know that has gone this route won! the business just cant chance the hit/loss of business!
Evey person I know that has gone this route won! the business just cant chance the hit/loss of business!
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 7,683
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From: La La land cali
St. Jude Donor '09
Rent a billboard close to the problem dealership and place an ad like this. Are you considering purchasing a vehicle from xyz dealer?
Ask me about my experience.
(xxx)xxx-xxxx
You can do this because the person will call you and as long as they ask you about your experience you have the right to answer them.This avoids the slander issue.
If you can afford the billboard cost trust me it will get the dealers attention in a hurry.
My car on a rented flatbed using the same message got taken care of real fast. I even still get a birthday and Christmas card from them.
Good luck from a fellow sufferer.....no more.
Ask me about my experience.
(xxx)xxx-xxxx
You can do this because the person will call you and as long as they ask you about your experience you have the right to answer them.This avoids the slander issue.
If you can afford the billboard cost trust me it will get the dealers attention in a hurry.
My car on a rented flatbed using the same message got taken care of real fast. I even still get a birthday and Christmas card from them.
Good luck from a fellow sufferer.....no more.
Fantastic ideas!
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Race Director
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From: SE Pennsylvania
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '26
Oldtimer
The Lemon law
Now that's how it works here in Pensylvania, but I'm sure it covers all of America. Take a look at your states 'Consumer Protection' website But there's no way for you to use this vehicle anymore. You have no faith it'll start on any day in the future. You don't want it and you don't need. Back in the 1997 I bought a Monte Carlo with a Z34 special engine in it. Five days after I bought it, it stopped dead turning a corner. I get on the phone to AAA, told them where I was and they sent a flatbed. It picked up the car and took it back to the Chevy dealership where I bought it. It took three months, but it got fixed.
On one of my trips to check on it, I got the service manager outside and gave him an envelope with $50.00 in it and said here a lunch ticket to the restaurant down the street. It paid of as they fixed thing not related to the engine at no cost to me. They put on the GMPP warranty but in the end they 1. found someone who knew how the engine worked, (They had to barrow a techinican from a Cadillac dealership in Delaware. 2. In the end, I got the car fixed and all was happy-land from that point forth.
You need a similar experience. Skip the car, it's no longer an issue, you want a check containing all monies paid by you and you'll be on you way. Just tell them if you wanted 'Drama' you'll go to the movies. :yesnod
Last edited by killain; Feb 16, 2011 at 10:35 AM.
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From: Whippany NJ
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
NCM Sinkhole Donor
i would never make payments for anything i dont have anymore. Thats insane! 
This does not appear to be the owners fault at all. Why would he just toss it? and then continue to make payments n it? good grief!I would have replied, its under warranty so stop making weak *** threats and fix it.
Last edited by Ikester; Feb 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM.
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 7,683
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From: La La land cali
St. Jude Donor '09
I'm not postive, but I believe all states have a Lemon Law. It's so constructed that IF you have to take your car to the dealer five times in three months for repairs, you are granted by law to deliver said vehicle to the original dealership from whom you purchased it from, and by law they or their parent company must refund all monies thus spent.
Now that's how it works here in Pensylvania, but I'm sure it covers all of America. Take a look at your states 'Consumer Protection' website But there's no way for you to use this vehicle anymore. You have no faith it'll start on any day in the future. You don't want it and you don't need. Back in the 1997 I bought a Monte Carlo with a Z34 special engine in it. Five days after I bought it, it stopped dead turning a corner. I get on the phone to AAA, told them where I was and they sent a flatbed. It picked up the car and took it back to the Chevy dealership where I bought it. It took three months, but it got fixed.
On one of my trips to check on it, I got the service manager outside and gave him an envelope with $50.00 in it and said here a lunch ticket to the restaurant down the street. It paid of as they fixed thing not related to the engine at no cost to me. They put on the GMPP warranty but in the end they 1. found someone who knew how the engine worked, (They had to barrow a techinican from a Cadillac dealership in Delaware. 2. In the end, I got the car fixed and all was happy-land from that point forth.
You need a similar experience. Skip the car, it's no longer an issue, you want a check containing all monies paid by you and you'll be on you way. Just tell them if you wanted 'Drama' you'll go to the movies. :yesnod
Now that's how it works here in Pensylvania, but I'm sure it covers all of America. Take a look at your states 'Consumer Protection' website But there's no way for you to use this vehicle anymore. You have no faith it'll start on any day in the future. You don't want it and you don't need. Back in the 1997 I bought a Monte Carlo with a Z34 special engine in it. Five days after I bought it, it stopped dead turning a corner. I get on the phone to AAA, told them where I was and they sent a flatbed. It picked up the car and took it back to the Chevy dealership where I bought it. It took three months, but it got fixed.
On one of my trips to check on it, I got the service manager outside and gave him an envelope with $50.00 in it and said here a lunch ticket to the restaurant down the street. It paid of as they fixed thing not related to the engine at no cost to me. They put on the GMPP warranty but in the end they 1. found someone who knew how the engine worked, (They had to barrow a techinican from a Cadillac dealership in Delaware. 2. In the end, I got the car fixed and all was happy-land from that point forth.
You need a similar experience. Skip the car, it's no longer an issue, you want a check containing all monies paid by you and you'll be on you way. Just tell them if you wanted 'Drama' you'll go to the movies. :yesnod
Good one. Well, I let everyone here (that PM'd me) know that I found an attorney who is willing to take on the case. It took him two weeks to sift through all of my documentation,
He looked at me and said "what took you so long?" Paperwork is signed and the ball is rolling.
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,998
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From: somewhere in New Hampshire
Good one. Well, I let everyone here (that PM'd me) know that I found an attorney who is willing to take on the case. It took him two weeks to sift through all of my documentation,
He looked at me and said "what took you so long?" Paperwork is signed and the ball is rolling.
He looked at me and said "what took you so long?" Paperwork is signed and the ball is rolling.
Race Director
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Good one. Well, I let everyone here (that PM'd me) know that I found an attorney who is willing to take on the case. It took him two weeks to sift through all of my documentation,
He looked at me and said "what took you so long?" Paperwork is signed and the ball is rolling.
He looked at me and said "what took you so long?" Paperwork is signed and the ball is rolling.
The sign idea is the best one yet. That will get them running not just moving on what you need to get done. The other thing I don't know if you have done is place a complaint with the BBB. Believe me when ever I do large ticket items I do a BBB search for any issues.
Good Luck and all the best to you.
Team Owner
Joined: Jan 2009
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From: Somewhere in Mo
St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
I'm not postive, but I believe all states have a Lemon Law. It's so constructed that IF you have to take your car to the dealer five times in three months for repairs, you are granted by law to deliver said vehicle to the original dealership from whom you purchased it from, and by law they or their parent company must refund all monies thus spent.
Now that's how it works here in Pensylvania, but I'm sure it covers all of America. Take a look at your states 'Consumer Protection' website But there's no way for you to use this vehicle anymore. You have no faith it'll start on any day in the future. You don't want it and you don't need. Back in the 1997 I bought a Monte Carlo with a Z34 special engine in it. Five days after I bought it, it stopped dead turning a corner. I get on the phone to AAA, told them where I was and they sent a flatbed. It picked up the car and took it back to the Chevy dealership where I bought it. It took three months, but it got fixed.
On one of my trips to check on it, I got the service manager outside and gave him an envelope with $50.00 in it and said here a lunch ticket to the restaurant down the street. It paid of as they fixed thing not related to the engine at no cost to me. They put on the GMPP warranty but in the end they 1. found someone who knew how the engine worked, (They had to barrow a techinican from a Cadillac dealership in Delaware. 2. In the end, I got the car fixed and all was happy-land from that point forth.
You need a similar experience. Skip the car, it's no longer an issue, you want a check containing all monies paid by you and you'll be on you way. Just tell them if you wanted 'Drama' you'll go to the movies. :yesnod
Now that's how it works here in Pensylvania, but I'm sure it covers all of America. Take a look at your states 'Consumer Protection' website But there's no way for you to use this vehicle anymore. You have no faith it'll start on any day in the future. You don't want it and you don't need. Back in the 1997 I bought a Monte Carlo with a Z34 special engine in it. Five days after I bought it, it stopped dead turning a corner. I get on the phone to AAA, told them where I was and they sent a flatbed. It picked up the car and took it back to the Chevy dealership where I bought it. It took three months, but it got fixed.
On one of my trips to check on it, I got the service manager outside and gave him an envelope with $50.00 in it and said here a lunch ticket to the restaurant down the street. It paid of as they fixed thing not related to the engine at no cost to me. They put on the GMPP warranty but in the end they 1. found someone who knew how the engine worked, (They had to barrow a techinican from a Cadillac dealership in Delaware. 2. In the end, I got the car fixed and all was happy-land from that point forth.
You need a similar experience. Skip the car, it's no longer an issue, you want a check containing all monies paid by you and you'll be on you way. Just tell them if you wanted 'Drama' you'll go to the movies. :yesnod
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: La La land cali
St. Jude Donor '09
This is just one of many:
What if the Lemon Law does NOT apply?
Published by Lemon Law under General Articles
If the defects with your vehicle do not meet the requirements of the Lemon Law, you may have claims under other state and federal laws that protect owners of new or used vehicles.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Law Summary
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty act is a Federal Law that protects the buyer of any product which costs more than $25 and comes with an express written warranty. This law applies to any product that you buy that does not perform as it should.
Regarding “lemon cars“, this law greatly affects the rights of car buyers. For any product which has a written warranty if any part of the product, or the product itself is considered defective, the warrantor must permit the buyer the choice of either a refund or replacement of the product.
In two years, this car has spent half of its life in approximately 7 different shops, some were certified GM repairs, some were not. One of the most powerful tools for recourse in this situation (for me) is the fact that I have kept an impeccable amount of documentation on every single facet pertaining to this vehicle. There is nothing left to "chance" or 'he said, she said' -- it's all there (in triplicate) for the whole world to see.
All of my service records have been accessed numerous times. Oil changes done long before they were due (according to manufacturer guidelines)
Not one modification to the drive train in any way, shape or form. Not even a "cat-back" (as much as I would have liked to put a Borla system in)- nothing.
It's a solid case and I will keep you all updated from time to time. I'm sure there will be plenty of offers coming across the table.
What if the Lemon Law does NOT apply?
Published by Lemon Law under General Articles
If the defects with your vehicle do not meet the requirements of the Lemon Law, you may have claims under other state and federal laws that protect owners of new or used vehicles.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Law Summary
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty act is a Federal Law that protects the buyer of any product which costs more than $25 and comes with an express written warranty. This law applies to any product that you buy that does not perform as it should.
Regarding “lemon cars“, this law greatly affects the rights of car buyers. For any product which has a written warranty if any part of the product, or the product itself is considered defective, the warrantor must permit the buyer the choice of either a refund or replacement of the product.
In two years, this car has spent half of its life in approximately 7 different shops, some were certified GM repairs, some were not. One of the most powerful tools for recourse in this situation (for me) is the fact that I have kept an impeccable amount of documentation on every single facet pertaining to this vehicle. There is nothing left to "chance" or 'he said, she said' -- it's all there (in triplicate) for the whole world to see.
All of my service records have been accessed numerous times. Oil changes done long before they were due (according to manufacturer guidelines)
Not one modification to the drive train in any way, shape or form. Not even a "cat-back" (as much as I would have liked to put a Borla system in)- nothing.
It's a solid case and I will keep you all updated from time to time. I'm sure there will be plenty of offers coming across the table.
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This is all a sad story.
But , you were not and so far have not paid a attorney to
get you out of this mess or resolve your issues.
Be proactive and make it happen.
Good luck.
But , you were not and so far have not paid a attorney to
get you out of this mess or resolve your issues.
Be proactive and make it happen.
Good luck.
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 38
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This is just one of many:
What if the Lemon Law does NOT apply?
Published by Lemon Law under General Articles
If the defects with your vehicle do not meet the requirements of the Lemon Law, you may have claims under other state and federal laws that protect owners of new or used vehicles.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Law Summary
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty act is a Federal Law that protects the buyer of any product which costs more than $25 and comes with an express written warranty. This law applies to any product that you buy that does not perform as it should.
Regarding “lemon cars“, this law greatly affects the rights of car buyers. For any product which has a written warranty if any part of the product, or the product itself is considered defective, the warrantor must permit the buyer the choice of either a refund or replacement of the product.
In two years, this car has spent half of its life in approximately 7 different shops, some were certified GM repairs, some were not. One of the most powerful tools for recourse in this situation (for me) is the fact that I have kept an impeccable amount of documentation on every single facet pertaining to this vehicle. There is nothing left to "chance" or 'he said, she said' -- it's all there (in triplicate) for the whole world to see.
All of my service records have been accessed numerous times. Oil changes done long before they were due (according to manufacturer guidelines)
Not one modification to the drive train in any way, shape or form. Not even a "cat-back" (as much as I would have liked to put a Borla system in)- nothing.
It's a solid case and I will keep you all updated from time to time. I'm sure there will be plenty of offers coming across the table.
What if the Lemon Law does NOT apply?
Published by Lemon Law under General Articles
If the defects with your vehicle do not meet the requirements of the Lemon Law, you may have claims under other state and federal laws that protect owners of new or used vehicles.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Law Summary
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty act is a Federal Law that protects the buyer of any product which costs more than $25 and comes with an express written warranty. This law applies to any product that you buy that does not perform as it should.
Regarding “lemon cars“, this law greatly affects the rights of car buyers. For any product which has a written warranty if any part of the product, or the product itself is considered defective, the warrantor must permit the buyer the choice of either a refund or replacement of the product.
In two years, this car has spent half of its life in approximately 7 different shops, some were certified GM repairs, some were not. One of the most powerful tools for recourse in this situation (for me) is the fact that I have kept an impeccable amount of documentation on every single facet pertaining to this vehicle. There is nothing left to "chance" or 'he said, she said' -- it's all there (in triplicate) for the whole world to see.
All of my service records have been accessed numerous times. Oil changes done long before they were due (according to manufacturer guidelines)
Not one modification to the drive train in any way, shape or form. Not even a "cat-back" (as much as I would have liked to put a Borla system in)- nothing.
It's a solid case and I will keep you all updated from time to time. I'm sure there will be plenty of offers coming across the table.
Hang in there man!
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 7,683
Likes: 3
From: La La land cali
St. Jude Donor '09
Excuse me my good friend, but "yes" I have. I paid him and I signed The
"Attorney-Client" agreement. I'm not bullshi##ing you. It's a done deal. I actually have a list of all the costs, including civil damages and attorney fees, plus his %.
I was proactive, and I made it happen, mark my words. As stated, I will keep you updated.
I will be an expert in the field when the dust finally settles. They have been served.
