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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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I have a 2002 C5 with the typical gas gage problem and have used the sea foam and techron additives to the gas tank and has not fixed the problem. Any suggestions?
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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Read the codes out of the DIC (dash) and determine which side it is... It costs about $350 to replace the right side and about $100 to do the left side... That's for parts if you go with genuine GM parts..

It's my understand either side is not all that bad to replace.. My right side is acting up but right now it's working but I suspect it has not 'healed'...
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like we're seeing more and more of this problem lately....I suspect the quality of our gasoline is declining rapidly or it's just the aging factor of the C-5. Eithr way, it sucks.

BTW. try adding the tehcron when the tank is 1/2 full let it sit over night, then give yourself a fillup. It might just work..
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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you need to add techron to a full tank and run it all the way down to nearly empty to work.

it usually take 2 tankfuls or more.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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I know it's going to sound blasphemous, but I had (at least one of) the gauge issue (showing empty from 7/8 > 1/2) and tried seafoam and techron and chevron-only gas. After a few months it showed almost zero difference. Filled up once at a shell station and the gauge has worked fine ever since (3 tanks so far I think).
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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it took about 4 tank fill ups with techron added each time to clear mine up
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like we're seeing more and more of this problem lately....I suspect the quality of our gasoline is declining rapidly or it's just the aging factor of the C-5. Eithr way, it sucks.

BTW. try adding the tehcron when the tank is 1/2 full let it sit over night, then give yourself a fillup. It might just work..
Gasoline quality is steadly declining. And if that wasn't bad enough, the amount of ethanol the EPA wants in each gallon to rise it's % in pump gas everywhere. And ethanol, or alcohol has a very corrosive effect on all those tiny little metal parts in your fuel system, the pump and then there's the fuel pressure regulator and the fuel injectors. All things being equal, ethanol means rust, more ethanol more rust and corrosion. you can't fight the government. Just the facts of life.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Gasoline quality is steadly declining. And if that wasn't bad enough, the amount of ethanol the EPA wants in each gallon to rise it's % in pump gas everywhere. And ethanol, or alcohol has a very corrosive effect on all those tiny little metal parts in your fuel system, the pump and then there's the fuel pressure regulator and the fuel injectors. All things being equal, ethanol means rust, more ethanol more rust and corrosion. you can't fight the government. Just the facts of life.
one other thing, GM did not change this design for the C6
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I've built several boosted high hp cars that ran on E85...the longest was for 3 years. Opening the tank at the end there was NO visible issue anywhere. Seals in the fuel pump, connectors, tank lining...nothing. This was on vehicles a lot older than c5's as well. Ethanol isn't corrosive. On some microscopic level, I'm sure there's evidence, but in the real world I just never saw any such thing. Internally the engines were clean as hell...that was the only difference I saw. Ethanol isn't like Methanol...meth will eat your stuff alive...and make you blind if you drink it. Two different forms of alchohol due to still technique.

On the gas gauge thing...my Z is doin it as well. I just added techron and cleared the code from PCM through the DIC. Workin for now.
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Had the same issue with my 2002 coupe. At 3/4 it went to zero, filled it up and it went to full. Road around and it got down to 1/2 and then went to zero. I got the techron in it now and filled it up with shell gas. It got all the way to 1/4 and I added another bottle of techron and shell gas and problem seems to has been fixed. You need to run the tank down to 1/4 or less. Eventhough the gage may not work the float is still moving and it's rubing against the coper pickups. Put the techron in and fill it up and it should get better. If not then you may need to change the sending unit. Driving very easy you should get about 350 to 400 miles to a tank. l it up and reset the trip odometer. Good luck

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I had the typical 3/4 tank gauge crash -- tried Techron a few times with no change but... I went out of town for a week so I filled the tank up and added the Techron - when I returned the gauge started working! - seems like letting the Techron work for a while and with the fluid covering all of the coils on the sender , I think that cleaned them up.
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I'd give it a couple more tries with the Techron or SeaFoam. If it still doesn't work, you may have to replace the sending units.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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I have the same vexing problem in my 2002. I finally went to Auto Zone and bought one of the approximately $100 code readers and now when the gage drops to zero, the first time I pull over I plug in the reader and even though it shows "No Codes" I go through the process of clearing them. As soon as I turn the ignition back on the gage goes up to where it should be. Mine doesn't do it every time and can't be depended on to drop off on a schedule so I just carry the reader in the glove box and use it when necessary.

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I had this problem while I was using Chevron gas. The head mechanic at West Coast Corvettes recommended a switch to Mobil gas. After a couple of tank fulls of Mobil, the problem with the gas gauge went away. That was about six years ago. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Jumper11
Had the same issue with my 2002 coupe. At 3/4 it went to zero, filled it up and it went to full. Road around and it got down to 1/2 and then went to zero. I got the techron in it now and filled it up with shell gas. It got all the way to 1/4 and I added another bottle of techron and shell gas and problem seems to has been fixed. You need to run the tank down to 1/4 or less. Eventhough the gage may not work the float is still moving and it's rubing against the coper pickups. Put the techron in and fill it up and it should get better. If not then you may need to change the sending unit. Driving very easy you should get about 350 to 400 miles to a tank. l it up and reset the trip odometer. Good luck
Exactly right and the way I have been telling everyone to do it. Adding it to a full tank is useless it will sit in the left tank.
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Originally Posted by Spooky 52
I have the same vexing problem in my 2002. I finally went to Auto Zone and bought one of the approximately $100 code readers and now when the gage drops to zero, the first time I pull over I plug in the reader and even though it shows "No Codes" I go through the process of clearing them. As soon as I turn the ignition back on the gage goes up to where it should be. Mine doesn't do it every time and can't be depended on to drop off on a schedule so I just carry the reader in the glove box and use it when necessary.

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You could pull over and not reset the codes and it will do the same thing. You have 1 bad spot and it will work again after shut off. You could have got Techron for $7 and saved $93. Put some in once in a while and keep the tank full when the car sits.
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I'd give it a couple more tries with the Techron or SeaFoam. If it still doesn't work, you may have to replace the sending units.
Yep... Techron, Seafoam... didn't work for me. The real culprit here is corrosion of the traces on fuel level sensor which is part of the fuel sending unit assembly. Unfortunately, these cannot be purchased separately... you have to by the entire fuel sending unit assembly. There are two as there are two tanks.

Check out the corroded traces... the dark colored gunk. These traces should be as shiny as a brand new silver dollar,

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Originally Posted by Spooky 52
I have the same vexing problem in my 2002. I finally went to Auto Zone and bought one of the approximately $100 code readers and now when the gage drops to zero, the first time I pull over I plug in the reader and even though it shows "No Codes" I go through the process of clearing them. As soon as I turn the ignition back on the gage goes up to where it should be. Mine doesn't do it every time and can't be depended on to drop off on a schedule so I just carry the reader in the glove box and use it when necessary.

Jim
Your not seeing the code because those typical code readers won't extract all the codes. With these vettes you don't even need a reader at all. The DIC displays all the codes, allows you to clear them, etc. The only benefit of the scan tool is monitoring and checking the status of the emission function tests.

And....I love being pariotic and all...but did you REALLY do that to the back of your vette....

Next time just hold the options button and press the fuel button 4 times in a row. It'll display the pcm code. Hold reset and it'll clear the code...no scanner needed.
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one other thing, GM did not change this design for the C6
Why does this not surprise me
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