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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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There was a fixed headlight solution someone did some years back that didn't have the frog-eyed "bump" on the lense. It followed the contour lines of the Vette, and looked good, but it required some cutting and molding of the fiberglass.

Maybe some of the old-schoolers here remember it; I recall it being on an orange and white vette...
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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I don't want to get into the fray of wich is better, but i got my fixed lights because they allow me to see much better at night. I drive it most every day. I go to work in the dark and come home alot of times in the dark. Also once while driving through my neighborhood, there was a kid playing in the street after dark, and i didn't see him til it was almost too late. After that was when i decided to go with these.

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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rtpassini
closed they look great. its when they are open when it gets ugly. just bulky and out of place. do I think the depo style is better? yes. do I think they are the best. no way. but its still an improvement. but lets not call out ugly vettes. especially when yours has that stupid ugly roll bar.
lol again. The roll bar is a requirement for the track, and it bolts in and bolts out. I'd call it 'safe' long before I'd call it 'stupid'.

I was just saying that about yours for laughs. My vert in the avatar actually has the depo lights on it now. Do they look better? Hell no. Do they have better light? Hell yeah.

When the lights are open it's night time anyway and you aren't 'showcasing' the beauty of the car so much.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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I have a set of the JWM Sun Guns that are still in the prototyping stage. The shrouds are still being finalized. I like 'em though.



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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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The overall look of a car with retractable headlights is much sleeker than a vehicle that has space in the front dedicated to clear plastic for the purposes of illumination. This only hold true with the headlights DOWN.

When they are UP they are not particularly attractive.................I just prefer retractable designs to other automotive "faces".
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Oh well, this can be a historical debate, but since the sae effectively outlawed them a few years back, you probably wont ever see a new car sold with retractable headlights ever again.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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For me from a looks perspective, I still prefer the pop ups when they are properly working and are down during the day. Just makes the car look sleek. But I couldn't justify converting mine back from fixed back to pop-up. But the first thing I did is the HID conversion because the light output sucked from these Breathless Performance lights.

Obviously it is a personal preference so there is no right answer. I do have to admit that I really love being able to use the auto headlights, which I would probably not be using if I still had the pop-ups. That is probably the best advantage to me
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Fixed headlights on a C5 are not for everyone, myself included. However I do admire them on other peoples C5's. Thats the whole point of modding, to expess your car in your own tastes. There is no right or wrong when it comes to modding, it's your car, your money so you do what makes you happy. That's why there are menus in restaurants.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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I thought long and hard about what type of better HID lighting I wanted to add to my C5. Pop ups or non-pop ups, I think we pretty much all agree that the 1997 halogen light design has much to be desired.

I didn't want to simply blast HID lighting using the OEM non projector lenses so I weighed the pros and cons of each system.

In the end, I realized that over 75% of my C5 driving is during the day. I also think the pop up lights are part of the C5 personality and although I understand the aerodynamic reasons employed originally by the C5R racing team, I chose to stay with pop ups. I've seen some nice exposed systems and I've seen some that are pretty ugly and IMO destroy the lines of the C5 and look out of place.

This is the first I've heard that ACA or other aftermarket kits are heavier than the OEM housings as I did not notice the additional weight upon installation of my ACAs. It doesn't matter, because we all know that the OEM nylon gears will fail as it's not a question of if, rather when, so I have the brass gear replacement on hand ready to go.

Plus, when they are closed, there is nothing more stealth.

I love my ACAs and I would only consider swapping them for JWM's Sun Guns (above) once they are ready for market.


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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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I think Depos look ghetto if the top isnt painted, be it body color or black.. im just lucky that i have a black car..

we do it for the "Race" look.. the C5R has them so i want them too.. To the guy that called him out for being an 80s baby, I am (1985) and totally understand what hes saying.. it seems like when they switched the 4th gen camaro from 97 to 98 with the nose swap i always figured thats what the tigershark and none flip ups should have been.. then then basically ripped off the Tigershark and made it sharper to make the C6..

some of us want what the dealer kicks out and some of us have the glimmer of what OUR cars should be.. and people say Frog eye like its a bad thing.. look up Sinister i believe his name is, that car is BAD @$$..

side note: Does anybody make a Depo style frog eye with Halos?
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tslick98
I don't want to get into the fray of wich is better, but i got my fixed lights because they allow me to see much better at night. I drive it most every day. I go to work in the dark and come home alot of times in the dark. Also once while driving through my neighborhood, there was a kid playing in the street after dark, and i didn't see him til it was almost too late. After that was when i decided to go with these.

I like those alot
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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I prefer my car looking like a frog. The lighting is not even comparable to the stock lighting output. Plus a little weight savings doesn't hurt.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RLYSLO

exactly!
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:55 PM
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Patches, do the "Sun Guns" have the dreaded jiggle the ACA style lights have?
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tslick98
I don't want to get into the fray of wich is better, but i got my fixed lights because they allow me to see much better at night. I drive it most every day. I go to work in the dark and come home alot of times in the dark. Also once while driving through my neighborhood, there was a kid playing in the street after dark, and i didn't see him til it was almost too late. After that was when i decided to go with these.

Very nice C5.

With that said...the lights make it look a lot like a Mitsubishi 3000 GT from the front. To me it just takes away from the natural beauty of a C5.

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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister-Z
Very nice C5.

With that said...the lights make it look a lot like a Mitsubishi 3000 GT from the front. To me it just takes away from the natural beauty of a C5.
3000GT's have pop ups very similar to ours. Unless your talking about the 99' 3000GT that had fixed headlights.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwik01
3000GT's have pop ups very similar to ours. Unless your talking about the 99' 3000GT that had fixed headlights.
Yes...I'm talking about the later model.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 03:34 AM
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Patches, do the "Sun Guns" have the dreaded jiggle the ACA style lights have?
Nope. steady as a rock
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwik01
I prefer my car looking like a frog. The lighting is not even comparable to the stock lighting output. Plus a little weight savings doesn't hurt.
So the frog eyes are brighter? I like them (depos?)

I am actually asking incase I need them when my motors go out.

Thanks in advance
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwik01
3000GT's have pop ups very similar to ours. Unless your talking about the 99' 3000GT that had fixed headlights.
actually '93 was the last year for pop-ups. '94-'99 were all fixed. [if it matters]
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