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Old May 26, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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I have been on this forum as a member for almost 7 months, but have lurked on the forum for some years.

It is an excellent forum,great information, and i have had the pleasure of meeting a few senior members, at various corvette events.

This post is not directed to the majority of forum members, but to the shall we say, uniformed few.

I have seen several posts and follow ups bashing Bill, (aka Evil Twin) reguarding his insights and advice on the c-5 of which he had a hand in seeing come to life,

I personally, have met and talked in depth over the years with several, current and retired corvette designers and engineers, at various events that i attend, most notably corvettes at carlisle,Bloomington Gold, and Bowling Green. Dave McClellan, Dave Hill, John cafero,Joe Spielman,Will Cooksey to name a few.

Let me say this, Each and every engineer and members of the design team have a true dedication to the corvette, and just about all of them are corvette owners.

Bill is not even touching the surface of what those guys went through to bring the c-5 to life.

The missed vacations, long workdays, and weekends and time from their families to bring us the car we love.

I have owned 2 corvettes, but this is my first c-5,and my prior c-3's do not even come close to the level of performance, cargo space, comfort and longevity our cars have built into them. Thanks to the hard work and dedication by Bill and his peers.

It is scary how close the corvette came to extinction,by the upper management at GM,but these guys fought them aLL The way to preserve the heritage and bring us the c-5,which evolved into the c-6,and soon c-7.

I take Bills advice to heart, and for one am grateful for the posts.

So if you want to cut corners, to save a couple of dollars, wether it be on oil, coolant, thermostats fuel, be my guest.

But DO NOT try to contradict a man who, like his peers poured his heart and soul into the c-5,and whom does know the cars better then you or I.

So in closing, many thanks ET, keep up the welcomed advice,and lets enjoy our cars. Im done.

Ken
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Old May 26, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Very well said. It's not a wonder why so many here want to keep around the veterans such as ET. We already lost Junkman to the foolishness allowed to fester here. And he brought a wealth of knowledge regarding the car and modifying them and helped a ton of members. Shame the trolls feel the need to try to make the forum a worse place.

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Old May 26, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexSmith
Very well said. It's not a wonder why so many here want to keep around the veterans such as ET. We already lost Junkman to the foolishness allowed to fester here. And he brought a wealth of knowledge regarding the car and modifying them and helped a ton of members. Shame the trolls feel the need to try to make the forum a worse place.

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ET WAS A GREAT HELP TO ME ON SEVERAL PROBLEMS I HAD. THE BOOK "ALL CORVETTES ARE RED" IS A GREAT READ ON THE C5 DEVELOPMENT
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Old May 26, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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I agree that his information is very much appreciated (by most of us). However, you might consider sending him a PM directly to convey that message.

The last time someone posted up a thread like this, it invited several of the unappreciative members another opportunity to bash him. It didn't go well...
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Old May 26, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly, Bill is a definite asset to the community!
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Old May 26, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Bill Curlee is moreso. He is polite, helpful and knowledgeable. He has come up with solutions to the obvious engineering short comings of the Y platform. He does not come off as snarky,demeaning and all knowing. Read the stickies, who has the most input into them?
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Old May 26, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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There are a lot of very knowledgeable members on the forum whose advice and insight are invaluable and yes, Bill (Evil-Twin) is one of them. I know I have learned a lot from his posts over the years.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Great post hdkeno.

E-T is one of those invaluable assets. He lived and breathed the design and production of this car. When he speaks, people should listen because he knows what he's talking about.

It's easy for members to challenge him - but he tells it how it is and some people don't want to hear that. I for one have learned a lot of what I know about this car by listening to the experts here. E-T is head and shoulders above all of us.



Sad that this post will degenerate into the "He said, she said" bickering. Standing by!

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Old May 26, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
There are a lot of very knowledgeable members on the forum whose advice and insight are invaluable and yes, Bill (Evil-Twin) is one of them. I know I have learned a lot from his posts over the years.


It's not often you can ask a question about whatever and get answers from an engineer who was involved directly with the the item you asking about. In our case the C5 and I'm still suprised he takes the time to answer questions. Keep the posts coming ET, I enjoy and learn a lot from what your write. If any one wants to know how the C5 came to be, I suggest you go down to your local Library and get "All Corvettes are Red". I read the book a few months ago and learned some things about how GM works and what went into the almost cancelled C5 project. I read it twice and picked up on some things I didn't the first time, and I want you to know I'm not a book reading type at all. I usually wait until a movie is made and I'm in and out in less than 2 hrs. But I really enjoyed reading this one! A must read for all C5 owners.

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The Forum has changed alot in the past couple of years, and some(not all) of the newer members just dont appreciate good info when they see it. they for some reason feel the need to bash a fellow member which is just wrong.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly, Bill is a definite asset to the community!
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Old May 26, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeGee
Great post hdkeno.

E-T is one of those invaluable assets. He lived and breathed the design and production of this car. When he speaks, people should listen because he knows what he's talking about.

It's easy for members to challenge him - but he tells it how it is and some people don't want to hear that. I for one have learned a lot of what I know about this car by listening to the experts here. E-T is head and shoulders above all of us.



Sad that this post will degenerate into the "He said, she said" bickering. Standing by!
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Old May 26, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Amen!
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Old May 26, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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No problems for me from ET. I remember over 3 years ago when I first joined he was kind enough to give me lots of info on the car I was looking at buying which I currently own.

Thank you Bill!
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I haven't seen ET on here for quite some time.
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Originally Posted by corvettecrazy2
The Forum has changed alot in the past couple of years, and some(not all) of the newer members just dont appreciate good info when they see it. they for some reason feel the need to bash a fellow member which is just wrong.
even though it shows me as a new member ive been a corvette fourm member since 2003 (keep changing my login name) and what a difference the last couple years have made
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There are some members on this forum that really have undisputed knowledge of the c5. I would consider almost anything they said about the car to be a text book fact. i could count the number of these members on one hand. ET is one of them.
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