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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ambrowns
Thanks, but this doesn't apply anyway because my car has over 80,000 miles.
Read the whole law. Over 80k, or 8 years, the Vette is no longer covered by warranty. You are on your own.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jbondfl
I don't know,,, I'll bet the local dealer will tell you they won't honor a warranty on non-standard equipment (unless they installed it).

I do think the VA Bch dealer has no choice but to honor the warranty because he sold you the car as it sits (with the headers).

Here's the rub... they won't just delete the P0420 code because they can't (by law). They probably don't know how to tune the car with the headers so it will pass....
Tell them you won't force them to take the car back if they pay for an aftermarket tuner to tune the car ($300-400). They'll probably like that idea. Then you get a dyno tuned car that passes emissions.

Everyone ends up happy. Good luck
This sounds reasonable to me. I'd want to keep the headers on the car if at all possible so getting a tune that would make it emissions compliant would be a solution.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
This sounds reasonable to me. I'd want to keep the headers on the car if at all possible so getting a tune that would make it emissions compliant would be a solution.
Yeah, I think this is what I'm going to try to do. I'm just hoping that it will pass the OBD-II test afterwards. It already passed the visual inspection so I'm not too worried about that.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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This may be a dumb question but I have to ask.

Why don't you just drive the car south in Virginia far enough where they don't worry or care or test for emission testing? (I'm in Rockbridge County, two hours south of NOVA)

Roll into a gas station, they check the break pads, ball joints, lights, horn and a couple of other things. They don't care about your codes or what's under the car as long as the exhaust isn't leaking.

Then they scrape off the old sticker and slap on a new one: $20.00 max.

That's got to be way too simple to work!

Is the NOVA (northern virginia) state inspection sticker any different than those down this way? I don't think so but maybe I'm wrong.

Good Luck!
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockbridge
This may be a dumb question but I have to ask.

Why don't you just drive the car south in Virginia far enough where they don't worry or care or test for emission testing? (I'm in Rockbridge County, two hours south of NOVA)

Roll into a gas station, they check the break pads, ball joints, lights, horn and a couple of other things. They don't care about your codes or what's under the car as long as the exhaust isn't leaking.

Then they scrape off the old sticker and slap on a new one: $20.00 max.

That's got to be way too simple to work!

Is the NOVA (northern virginia) state inspection sticker any different than those down this way? I don't think so but maybe I'm wrong.

Good Luck!
Yeah, originally I had hoped that would work, however, emissions testing is tied in with registration and titlling a car. I already have an inspection sticker that is good until 06/12 but the dealership can't title the car in NOVA until I get the emissions test.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettmann17
Absoulutely bring it back to the dealer. As others have said, they cannot sell you a car that won't pass emissions. I'm suprised that an emissions test and new sticker wasnt done before you took delivery. Anyhow, bring it back where you bought it and have them do whatever they have to do for the car to pass, and have them do the new emissions test and issue you the new sticker.
There is a two-tiered inspection system in VA. There is a uniform state wide safety inspection which all vehicles registered in VA must pass. That is the inspection that requires the sticker on the window and it must be done every year. The is also an emission inspection, but it is not state wide.

Heavily urban areas such as the Northern VA suburbs of the Wash, D.C. are are subject to the emission inspection requirements in order to obtain your license plates, but other areas of the state are not subject to those requirement since the do not have the "air quality/smog" issues of the urban area. So a dealer outside of NOVA would not need to do emission inspection, but the purchaser would be obligated to do that once they bring the car to NOVA for licensing.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 3GenVettes
There is a two-tiered inspection system in VA. There is a uniform state wide safety inspection which all vehicles registered in VA must pass. That is the inspection that requires the sticker on the window and it must be done every year. The is also an emission inspection, but it is not state wide.

Heavily urban areas such as the Northern VA suburbs of the Wash, D.C. are are subject to the emission inspection requirements in order to obtain your license plates, but other areas of the state are not subject to those requirement since the do not have the "air quality/smog" issues of the urban area. So a dealer outside of NOVA would not need to do emission inspection, but the purchaser would be obligated to do that once they bring the car to NOVA for licensing.
I agree. It is on the buyer now.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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I have known people who have their car "garaged" at an address in Virginia that don't require the Emission Inspection. Not saying its right but it has been done.
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Originally Posted by jbondfl
I don't know,,, I'll bet the local dealer will tell you they won't honor a warranty on non-standard equipment (unless they installed it).

I do think the VA Bch dealer has no choice but to honor the warranty because he sold you the car as it sits (with the headers).

Here's the rub... they won't just delete the P0420 code because they can't (by law). They probably don't know how to tune the car with the headers so it will pass....
Tell them you won't force them to take the car back if they pay for an aftermarket tuner to tune the car ($300-400). They'll probably like that idea. Then you get a dyno tuned car that passes emissions.

Everyone ends up happy. Good luck


I would take it to a reputable Corvette shop over a dealer.

Good Luck!
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