C5 EBCM issues
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C5 EBCM issues
Being new to the corvette owners ring, I have been stunned by the issues with the c5 ebcm's. When the dealership told me there was no oem replacement for my 2000 coupe ebcm with 2900 miles I couldn't hardly believe it. After days of searching and calling I now believe there are no parts left. I have even filed a complaint with GM and was only given a list of websites to locate parts, many of which did not even offer corvette parts and those that did no longer carried the ebcm. With an obvious issue related to safety, can anyone tell me if there has been a class action suit filed to seek a fix for this issue?? Any help or guidance with this issue would be greatly appreciated!
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Here's a thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-problems.html
And another
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...sollution.html
I am not surprised that GM isn't concerned. After 10 years I doubt they can be held responsible. Not that I think it's right but we are a throw away society.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-problems.html
And another
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...sollution.html
I am not surprised that GM isn't concerned. After 10 years I doubt they can be held responsible. Not that I think it's right but we are a throw away society.
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Yes, From all that I have read, there is some confusion as to what brand and model # module we are actually dealing with.
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Sorry to hear you are having problems with the EBCM on your Corvette. I had a similar issue on my 1999 Cadillac STS back in 2009: the only difference was that the EBCM unit was still available from Cadillac for $1600 plus installation and I was not willing to pay that price. Instead I removed my EBCM unit (easy to remove, 15-30 minutes) and sent it to AutoECU for them to repair. They did a great job with quick turn-around (just a few days). I checked their website tonight and they advertise that they repair 1998-2000 Corvette ABS units for $495 (http://www.autoecu.com/Chevrolet%20C...l%20Module.htm). I wonder if 1997 is the same, or if that unit is different yet.
Legally, the automakers are only required to supply parts for 10 years.
CORRECTION
I believe my statement on 10 year parts supply is incorrect. Most OEMs stock parts for 10 years. However, I have not found verbiage which states this is legally required.
Legally, the automakers are only required to supply parts for 10 years.
CORRECTION
I believe my statement on 10 year parts supply is incorrect. Most OEMs stock parts for 10 years. However, I have not found verbiage which states this is legally required.
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Sorry to hear you are having problems with the EBCM on your Corvette. I had a similar issue on my 1999 Cadillac STS back in 2009: the only difference was that the EBCM unit was still available from Cadillac for $1600 plus installation and I was not willing to pay that price. Instead I removed my EBCM unit (easy to remove, 15-30 minutes) and sent it to AutoECU for them to repair. They did a great job with quick turn-around (just a few days). I checked their website tonight and they advertise that they repair 1998-2000 Corvette ABS units for $495 (http://www.autoecu.com/Chevrolet%20C...l%20Module.htm). I wonder if 1997 is the same, or if that unit is different yet.
Legally, the automakers are only required to supply parts for 10 years.
Legally, the automakers are only required to supply parts for 10 years.
This guy didn't have any luck there.
The one in your Caddy may be different
I received my 2000 EBCM with active handling back from Automotive Scientific, Inc. (also known as "www.autoecu.com" or "Auto and Truck Electronics") at 212 East Washington St, Rogersville, Tennessee, 37857. They charged me $525 with shipping. Before I sent them my module, I marked each electronic component on the circuit board with a white dot of liquid paper. When I received the module back, there were no new components; all the components still hand my marks. There was evdience that all the solder connects on the board had been resoldered. I paid a shop $100 to reinstall my module and clear the codes. I still have a solenoid failure code. $525 out the window. Still not fixed.
I'm going to lodge a complaint with Automotive Scientific, Inc. since they had told me in advance that they would be replacing components on my board, and they did not. I belive that $500 is an excessive price to resolder the circuit board.
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The dealership sent my ebcm to autoecu on Friday for a rebuild, I will report on the success or failure of the repair when it is returned. I still don't understand the failure of this module. My car has never been in any wet weather and has only been washed twice in 11 years, so i don't think moisture in the module is the issue and with only 2900 miles, the module has not been subjected to excessive cycles. The whole situation is baffling.
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The dealership sent my ebcm to autoecu on Friday for a rebuild, I will report on the success or failure of the repair when it is returned. I still don't understand the failure of this module. My car has never been in any wet weather and has only been washed twice in 11 years, so i don't think moisture in the module is the issue and with only 2900 miles, the module has not been subjected to excessive cycles. The whole situation is baffling.
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Being new to the corvette owners ring, I have been stunned by the issues with the c5 ebcm's. When the dealership told me there was no oem replacement for my 2000 coupe ebcm with 2900 miles I couldn't hardly believe it. After days of searching and calling I now believe there are no parts left. I have even filed a complaint with GM and was only given a list of websites to locate parts, many of which did not even offer corvette parts and those that did no longer carried the ebcm. With an obvious issue related to safety, can anyone tell me if there has been a class action suit filed to seek a fix for this issue?? Any help or guidance with this issue would be greatly appreciated!
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I've considered buying a used one but I'm afraid it will happen all over again and don't want to throw away 475 bucks. But those lights sure get annoying, and I'm also concerned it will hurt future trade/sale opportunities so at the end of the day what do you do?
Get a used one for 475 and trade it real real quick for a Z
It sure is tempting.
Get a used one for 475 and trade it real real quick for a Z
It sure is tempting.
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I've considered buying a used one but I'm afraid it will happen all over again and don't want to throw away 475 bucks. But those lights sure get annoying, and I'm also concerned it will hurt future trade/sale opportunities so at the end of the day what do you do?
Get a used one for 475 and trade it real real quick for a Z It sure is tempting.
Get a used one for 475 and trade it real real quick for a Z
It sure is tempting.Wonder if some really smart person could come up with a way to feed all the correct voltages to the right places to keep the lights out. Fool the computer so to speak.
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I'm surprised someone hasn't started making aftermarket EBCMs. Surely there's enough of us who need or will need one. Oh well, I guess we'll figure it out one of these days.
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There's a thread around here somewhere I read that the owner was going to see if he could have it programmed out. He never came back as usual so I don't know how it turned out or if he attempted it.
I'm surprised someone hasn't started making aftermarket EBCMs. Surely there's enough of us who need or will need one. Oh well, I guess we'll figure it out one of these days.
I'm surprised someone hasn't started making aftermarket EBCMs. Surely there's enough of us who need or will need one. Oh well, I guess we'll figure it out one of these days.
1) GM would have to license the tech to an aftermarket builder.
2) The custom on board IC's would have to be sourced.
3) They would BE EXPENSIVE.
Time to get used to this-keeping cars 40+ years is goiing to be a thing of the past, keeping a modern car 20+ years is going to be a challenge soon.