Piston Slap....again.....
Drifting
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sorry
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Melting Slicks
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So what am I looking at here? A rebuild or can it be repaired?
just got back home and listened to your video. sorry dude, that is not normal. and it is not piston slap. this type of video, and listening on a computer, at least mine, is not like hearing it in person, but it sounds a lot like a bad rod bearing i had in a 305 once. it ran forever, and got quieter with heat also. that doesn't mean that's what it is, but you definately have a problem. drive it sensible and it may go quite a while until you can get a serious diagnosis and go from there.
sorry
sorry
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Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12
i think everyone is blowing this WAY out of proportion.
first, stop worrying.
second. Take a rubber hose or something similar and put it to different parts of the motor and listen to where the noise is coming from. BUT BE CAREFUL!!!!
first, stop worrying.
second. Take a rubber hose or something similar and put it to different parts of the motor and listen to where the noise is coming from. BUT BE CAREFUL!!!!
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12
my motor is noisy as hell. i just chalk it up to being the aftermarket heads and belt drive system.
here is a good video of piston slap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMqU...eature=related
here is a good video of piston slap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMqU...eature=related
Melting Slicks
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my motor is noisy as hell. i just chalk it up to being the aftermarket heads and belt drive system.
here is a good video of piston slap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMqU...eature=related
here is a good video of piston slap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMqU...eature=related
Drifting
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From: Harrisburg Pa.
my motor is noisy as hell. i just chalk it up to being the aftermarket heads and belt drive system.
here is a good video of piston slap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMqU...eature=related
here is a good video of piston slap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMqU...eature=related
i don't think anybody is blowing it out of proportion. just advising the op that he has a noise that is not normal. so do you.
of course your video and claim of nothing wrong could be a joke and you've already torn down the motor.
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To my ears, that sounds like a valve, not pistons. The frequency is too slow.
Piston slap is usually all the pistons, not just one.
That sounds like one valve, to me.
Either use a hose as was mentioned, or a long screwdriver right on your ear and touched on the valve cover while running. You will hear all kinds of sounds, but that tapping will stand out. And it will be on one side only.
Not on the fuel rail cover.
That Saturn in the video? If that's piston slap, I'd say the piston was busted. Or a rod bearing was failed.
Do the "stethescope" trick.
Ron
Piston slap is usually all the pistons, not just one.
That sounds like one valve, to me.
Either use a hose as was mentioned, or a long screwdriver right on your ear and touched on the valve cover while running. You will hear all kinds of sounds, but that tapping will stand out. And it will be on one side only.
Not on the fuel rail cover.
That Saturn in the video? If that's piston slap, I'd say the piston was busted. Or a rod bearing was failed.
Do the "stethescope" trick.
Ron
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Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12
have you ever heard the piston slap that we're talking about? it resembles lifters that need adjusted. that video is not piston slap. at least not the level of which anyone considers normal, given the facts that explain why it happens in these motors.
i don't think anybody is blowing it out of proportion. just advising the op that he has a noise that is not normal. so do you.
of course your video and claim of nothing wrong could be a joke and you've already torn down the motor.
i don't think anybody is blowing it out of proportion. just advising the op that he has a noise that is not normal. so do you.
of course your video and claim of nothing wrong could be a joke and you've already torn down the motor.
BUT
I have NEVER owned or heard a car that has ZERO valvetrain/belt/engine noise. And thats why i say people are blowing things out of proportion. Im not saying its impossible he doesnt have a problem. But i have heard noises not associated with the motor.
Drifting
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sure there are noises, but there are expected noises, and noises that indicate a problem. determination has to be made as to which is present.
what was pink floyd's line, "it's not the normal noises in here" or something like that?
what was pink floyd's line, "it's not the normal noises in here" or something like that?
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Melting Slicks
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Thanks for all your responses. The last few have a been a bit more positive. Im gonna go get it looked at this week and hopefully it turns out to be nothing.....
Drifting
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I don't think its a serious problem.
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Melting Slicks
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Oil pressure is normal, car runs fine.
Im now starting to think it may be the AC pulley. That was always a bit noisy at startup. the sound also seems to be coming from that area. Im gonna have it looked at today or tomorrow.
Im now starting to think it may be the AC pulley. That was always a bit noisy at startup. the sound also seems to be coming from that area. Im gonna have it looked at today or tomorrow.
Melting Slicks
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Its easy enough to eliminate any of the accessories by just pulling the belts off, it wont even take ten min to do. Now the ac belt will be a little harder to get off but still not too bad.
Drifting
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That video i posted is just one i saw browsing on youtube. and its a saturn. them things suck anyways.
BUT
I have NEVER owned or heard a car that has ZERO valvetrain/belt/engine noise. And thats why i say people are blowing things out of proportion. Im not saying its impossible he doesnt have a problem. But i have heard noises not associated with the motor.
BUT
I have NEVER owned or heard a car that has ZERO valvetrain/belt/engine noise. And thats why i say people are blowing things out of proportion. Im not saying its impossible he doesnt have a problem. But i have heard noises not associated with the motor.
i thought you were putting that out as your noise that you thought was piston slap or aftermarket heads or drive belt system or whatever
Drifting
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hope for a simple fix.
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12
heres a video of one of my old cars.
take a guess what the issue was here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZbQt37HsMQ
take a guess what the issue was here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZbQt37HsMQ
Melting Slicks
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heres a video of one of my old cars.
take a guess what the issue was here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZbQt37HsMQ
take a guess what the issue was here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZbQt37HsMQ