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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Im curious as to why you guys think im having too much overteer, causing the rear end to bust loose.

I was going through a roundabout, nothing TOO crazy and i gave it a little gas. maybe 1/4 throttle or so and the back came out a little.

This is concerning because I might be doing autox later this month and would useless to even go out there.

Heres some info on the car itself.

-18/19 rims with 305/30/19 on the rear. About half life of Michelin pilot sport ps2's.
-A4 (it didnt downshift or anything)
-Stock sways.
-Stock endlinks with bushings worn to hell
-Probably tired worn F45 shocks (149k)
-Over 400 rwhp.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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New shocks will help. Are you rolling on the gas and not stabbing it hard?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Just rolling on it
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Mine was just like that when i had a bad rear tie rod end.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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hmmmm...do you check for those the same way you would for the front?

just wiggle the tire when its off the ground? and if theres play its the tie rod?

wait...why would there be a tie rod in the rear if theres no steering linkage?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kale
Mine was just like that when i had a bad rear tie rod end.
^^^^ I agree.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:10 PM
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How would I check the tie riffs
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Stupid phone! Rods
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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Tie rods are good. Any other ideas?
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 04:09 AM
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Well, I would think this may have something to do with it

"-Stock sways.
-Stock endlinks with bushings worn to hell
-Probably tired worn F45 shocks (149k)
-Over 400 rwhp."

What was the air temp when you were out driving that day/nite?
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 05:50 AM
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Well, I would think this may have something to do with it

"-Stock sways.
-Stock endlinks with bushings worn to hell
-Probably tired worn F45 shocks (149k)
-Over 400 rwhp."

What was the air temp when you were out driving that day/nite?


If it is early morning and your tires are cold...it doesn't take much throttle for the fun to kick in
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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it was probably around 60 degrees. i had also been driving for about 20 minutes at that point.
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Mine was like that when the rear alignment was bad. (Shop replaced a worn tie rod end and didn't align it.) And yes they have tie-rods in the rear too.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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Tie rods are good. Alignment should also be fine. i just had the front end done because of lowering the vehicle and never having it done caused terrible tire wear.
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Originally Posted by rtpassini
Tie rods are good. Alignment should also be fine. i just had the front end done because of lowering the vehicle and never having it done caused terrible tire wear.
Did they do a 4 wheel alignment? Front and REAR tie rods are good? I had one of the adjusters come loose after the first alignment, might want to check that out also. Good luck
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yes. the rear tie rods. Judging by my tire wear my alignment is fine. Nothing extreme enough to warrant this at least.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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This is what happens when you have rubber band tires on a car. A tire needs sufficient sidewall to flex under cornering. The more you have, the better communicative a tire will be.

With a 305/30/19, you will have tons of grip but are likely to just let go without warning. Given that you were on the street, they probably were relatively cold causing them to snap without warning.

Put some sensible wheels and tires on the car and it will communicate with you better.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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High stall torque converter might encourage this.
Size of roundabout. Smaller diameter = easier to break loose
Temperature makes a big difference with my car (toyo 888's)
Road conditions(dusty,coolant or oil on the road)
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You've been given a lot of good advice/info, but, I would definitely improve the two below, BIG TIME! If you go on a spirited run with good twisties, you'll catch hell in curves. That's what I would think .

-Stock sways.
-Stock endlinks with bushings worn to hell
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