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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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I just picked up my 04 z06 from having new tires installed and road force balanced. I was unpleasantly surprised to see that they installed wheel weights on the outside, though I guess it's my fault for not asking in advance.

Whend I STFFM, I found some conflicting information, wondering if you can help:
1) Is it possible to road force balance without using outside wheel weights?

2) Is it common for others getting road force balancing to show up with outside weights?


I'm not sure how much this is going to bother me, but don't want to sound like an idiot if I call these guys up to ask them about it.
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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Both sets of wheels I have for my car have been road force balanced and the weights are on the inside. I would take it back to whoever did it and make them change the weights to the inside.
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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Road force balancing is passe'.

Discount Tire here in Washington has removed all their equipment, saying it was no better than regular balancing.
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http://www.weightsaver.com/smartweig...ghtsaver02.htm

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Originally Posted by ztheusa
Road force balancing is passe'.

Discount Tire here in Washington has removed all their equipment, saying it was no better than regular balancing.
I will continue to pay for it on cars that I will drive at high speeds. My aftermarket wheels have much less than typical balancing weight on them.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ztheusa
Road force balancing is passe'.

Discount Tire here in Washington has removed all their equipment, saying it was no better than regular balancing.

That's Bull$hit !!!!

Done properly, Road Force matching significantly reduces R1H - Radial First Harmonic - vibration. There is no BALANCING method that can correct a R1H vibration.

To the OP, a good shop does not need to place weights on the outside of your wheels. Take it back to the shop and have them correctly mount the weights, or have them refund your money.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. Was just trying to determine if my request was valid.

They were super helpful and things look much better now.
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Originally Posted by Pumba
That's Bull$hit !!!!



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How would you know? Your setup won't stop any better than stock.
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This is interesting. I was looking to get the womans mustang wheels high speed road balanced.

I have had several sets done when discount tire used to offer this and they were perfectly smooth up to very high speeds. We moved to a small town without this option and her car even after balancing has an annoying high speed vibration. I am trying to hunt down a shop that still does this in BC and see if it fixes the problem.
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Originally Posted by ztheusa
How would you know? Your setup won't stop any better than stock.

Tell all the others reading this post the layman's definition of Radial First Harmonic Force Variation.

Then tell all of us how it is corrected.

I did the identification and reduction of R1H, Static, and Couple imbalance for a living. That's how I know ! ! !

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Ive had a couple of vehicles (BMW 525i & a 92ZR-1) where road force balancing was the only way to cure a high speed vibration problem. We tried everything from rotating the tire on the rim to using different types of weights.... the ONLY thing that worked was RFB.
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Originally Posted by glockshooter1
I just picked up my 04 z06 from having new tires installed and road force balanced. I was unpleasantly surprised to see that they installed wheel weights on the outside, though I guess it's my fault for not asking in advance.

Whend I STFFM, I found some conflicting information, wondering if you can help:
1) Is it possible to road force balance without using outside wheel weights?

2) Is it common for others getting road force balancing to show up with outside weights?


I'm not sure how much this is going to bother me, but don't want to sound like an idiot if I call these guys up to ask them about it.
I think you made the right decision getting it corrected. I picked up my 04 Vert yesterday after 4 tires mounted and balanced. Like you, I had weights on the outside (looked like crap) and questioned the service writer. Claimed with RFB they had to put them on outside. After some checking (found out weights can be placed on inside just more work) and disliking the look more and more I called back and have an appointment to have them moved inside.It seems kind of petty but better to get it taken care of because like you I was not sure how much this was going to bother me.
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