Octane test report
Racer
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: Jefferson City Missouri
If you don't believe the manual that the car should run on high octane why would you believe the company that the car needs more than 4 quarts of oil in it. If you cut back you probably would not feel it or hear it, at least for a while. If you are going to experiment by going to mid range fuel then the lowest octane why not drop back a quart on oil and next time drop back another quart...Why believe the manufacturer knows what is best! "Man up"
Melting Slicks
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Russell Ontario
St. Jude Donor '09
I'm sure my car can't tell the difference between Shell Esso Sunoco , or if it has 10w30 15w40 oil in it . if you drive hard fill her with premium, I don't drive ether one of mine hard and I don't have issues . to each his own. Non win argument . Why does the GM manual for an 05 grand prix says to change the oil every 10kms and my Buick says not to change till the computer tells you , both cars same year same engine and come off the same assembly line. My last oil change was 17,000 kms 
Race Director
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From: SE Pennsylvania
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '26
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Gasoline
Come on. The car is fine. I am not going to go out and wreck my Vette. It's a f'n science deal. It has performed perfectly so far. As soon as it tell's me other wise we will be fine. If it pings I think I might hear it. So far we have had no knock counts. This car hauls ***.
Well that was my problem and what the problem was that the intake valves had so much buildup of carbon and crap from using the cheapest gasoline lead to the cars engine not being able to suck enough Air/Fuel mixture around the carbon build up before the valv started to close. Now since the intake valve was closed there wasn't a suitable mixture in the cylinder and the spark plug fired but nothing cause there wasn't any, or enough Fuel / Air to have a combustion stroke hence it won't start. It only happened on cool morning is that is when the air / Fuel mixture is the densest, and does move as fast as the warmer lighter mixture does.
So the car had to have a extensive Fuel injection cleaning procedure. It wasn't covered by my GMPP warranty as they had already stated this on page 338 but No One ever read the goddamn stupid owners manual. Who knows if they had the outcome might of been different, But the dealership had the shop foremen and Steve Spencer stay after quitting hours and went over the Pontiac with a fine tooth comb. The engine had Spark, Fuel and compression, there/s no way it can't start. They checked the stroke, compression and the fuel, all pressures were fine but the engine don't fire. It came done to the only viable left, The fuel isn't making it into the engine. So the used a tool and a chemical that I don't know the name of but it was enough to break up the deposits on the intake valves and pistons. and I have to put bottle of Chevron/Techron injector cleaner in with every other fill-up. But I'm going to get a new set of Bosch fuel injectors because I still in the morning with the engine warming up up at 1000 RPM I can feel on of the injector stumbling ever so often till it hits the 150 degree mark. But whatever, good luck pal.
They didn't charge me for the work, instead they and I work out a plan that I pay for the rental car and they cover the work done on the engine. So that is what happens if you use 87 octane instead of 91. But you mostly won't keep the car long and that next smuck deal with the problem , if they ever crop up. s I said I respect you and you can do whatever with it. I wish you good luck and a nice safe summer !
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If you don't believe the manual that the car should run on high octane why would you believe the company that the car needs more than 4 quarts of oil in it. If you cut back you probably would not feel it or hear it, at least for a while. If you are going to experiment by going to mid range fuel then the lowest octane why not drop back a quart on oil and next time drop back another quart...Why believe the manufacturer knows what is best! "Man up"
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Carson City Nevada
I have to disagree on this. I run 87 in mine. Went on a 3,000 mile round trip, just using regular and got 32 mpg. I haved used regular in 4 c5's and a c4. No problems at all. Only time I've used premium was in the 62 and 65.
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Drifting
Joined: Jul 2011
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From: Bay Point California
Octane test
Your point? Look. I'm not an idiot here. I will not hurt this car. I love it. We love it. It's really the wife's car. I just drive it every chance I get. Every dollar I can save is good since I plan to retire soon.
So far mid grade is working out just fine. Stay tuned. All you haters just pipe down.
So far mid grade is working out just fine. Stay tuned. All you haters just pipe down.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Dec 2003
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From: pawleys island sc
However, it is your car. I think there's a post on cat **** somewhere above, might be worth a try.
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From: San Diego
