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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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For a rough draft it's pretty good. I'm in line to try something new when you get em done!
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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For a rough draft it's pretty good. I'm in line to try something new when you get em done!
Me too....
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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I agree those shrouds look great. Can someone Photoshop them into a C5 so we can see how they would look installed?

Keep up the good work!
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This is only my opinion, but the initial design though slightly angular it still looks really similar to other setups. Two projectors with two conical or what have you shrouds.

People usually end up painting a portion of the plexi, so why not avoid that by making the shroud in a way so paint isn't necessary.




I still think this set up looks very good, I mean the car is curvy and the headlights should be too. If 65mm pro's are used in a similar setup I think it's very possible and it would also bring the top surface area lower leaving plenty of space for a plexi lens.

Also with this setup you could have the option to have bi-xenon pros with maybe a traditional bulb type next to it fitted with bright white leds. Not sure what the cost would be for this but I don't imagine it being much greater than the initial setup you guys are discussing. Who knows it could be less...lighting expense wise that is.

Anywho, this is not me ******* on the design or anything like that. Only an opinion.

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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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^Those look great!
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I love pop-up lights myself... (heck 3 of my favorite cars of all time? Fiero GT, 3000GT 1st generation, and C5 Corvette... and fortunately I've owned all of them!)

So I would never drop them, but if I did I can't STAND the fixed lights that "pop up". They look like awkward bug eyes. If someone could find a small enough projector to fit into the small vertical height option of the current C5s, I think that would look great, although thats the real challenge. A design just like yours with a plastic top that doesn't project above the hood like most aftermarkets do would be a huge winner, and looking out at my C5 now its tough but I believe its certainly possible. It would really need a low profile projector lense though, and they do exist.

I also think it would look great to have a pop-up headlight that didn't pop up so far, like they do to the fieros.

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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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If someone could find a small enough projector to fit into the small vertical height option of the current C5s, I think that would look great, although thats the real challenge. A design just like yours with a plastic top that doesn't project above the hood like most aftermarkets do would be a huge winner, and looking out at my C5 now its tough but I believe its certainly possible. It would really need a low profile projector lense though, and they do exist.
Radioflyer's stealth light canons.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Or jwmotorings Sun guns, which is available now but without the bezel because they're still being developed.

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Something like these you mean
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I like x2! Where are those available?
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Radioflyer has a group buy going on now for these at a discounted price.
Here is a better pic.
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Originally Posted by nvusgt
This is only my opinion, but the initial design though slightly angular it still looks really similar to other setups. Two projectors with two conical or what have you shrouds.

People usually end up painting a portion of the plexi, so why not avoid that by making the shroud in a way so paint isn't necessary.




I still think this set up looks very good, I mean the car is curvy and the headlights should be too. If 65mm pro's are used in a similar setup I think it's very possible and it would also bring the top surface area lower leaving plenty of space for a plexi lens.

Also with this setup you could have the option to have bi-xenon pros with maybe a traditional bulb type next to it fitted with bright white leds. Not sure what the cost would be for this but I don't imagine it being much greater than the initial setup you guys are discussing. Who knows it could be less...lighting expense wise that is.

Anywho, this is not me ******* on the design or anything like that. Only an opinion.
Im working on a design like that right now the only thing im having issues with would be molding it, you couldn't do it vacuum formed in one pice so it would take 2 and assembly so it wold raise cost and the other method (plastic injection) would also raise price and the goal is to make them cheeper than other options.
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Originally Posted by skydiven4fun
Radioflyer has a group buy going on now for these at a discounted price.
Here is a better pic.
If you could separate the base from the plastic cover to paint it/color match it to the body of the car, that would look pretty darn slick. I'll stick with the pop ups for now, but if they ever fail, I think I'm going to head in this direction! Thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by Arachnyd
If you could separate the base from the plastic cover to paint it/color match it to the body of the car, that would look pretty darn slick. I'll stick with the pop ups for now, but if they ever fail, I think I'm going to head in this direction! Thanks for sharing.
You can.

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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dblerman
You can.

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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by _Wayne_
Just threw together this after class what do u guys think? its really rough so criticism is welcome I really want to get this down!

I like where your heading with this. Since the C5 is a rounded car maybe the sharp angle in the middle and sides round a bit. You also have to check how much space you have from the back of the projector to the wheel fender that gets in way. Much props so far so your on the right track.


As for the people who are now flooding this thread with radioflyers we know his are out there. This thread is to make a set for a lot less money and have more style in the shroud area.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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I like where your heading with this. Since the C5 is a rounded car maybe the sharp angle in the middle and sides round a bit. You also have to check how much space you have from the back of the projector to the wheel fender that gets in way. Much props so far so your on the right track.


As for the people who are now flooding this thread with radioflyers we know his are out there. This thread is to make a set for a lot less money and have more style in the shroud area.
Sorry, that was partially my fault for asking about them. I did not mean to hijack the thread, I really never knew those radioflyers existed.

Now back on track- I think you goal is a great one and I urge you to keep it up! When I was an engineer I had access to a 3D printer, and I've been in the market to buy one of those myself, so that could offer a great low-cost option for prototype parts.

I also think its really important to not only look at how good the light itself looks, but how does it look when its placed into the car. While symmetric balance looks great on the light itself, it ends up not following the look of the car when you look at something like the radioflyers. I think one other thing you could do that would make it really slick is to offset the sizes of the projectors. For example, in the examples of other cars many people posted, one of the great cosmetic items were the off-balance appearance of having a bigger inner or bigger outter projector lens. If this isn't possible for cost control reasons, you may be able to do what the C6 does and stagger the inner lense further out than the outer lense giving it that extra dimension, as the vette is a very-rounded car and a parallel headlight on a rounded bumper/hood/fender looks misplaced.

You will also need to figure out the depth distance of each projector your using, and once you select a projector you should be able to factor in the size constraints. Pull the outside lense as far back as it can go and still fit and you may not only have a cost-effective option, but you may have one of the best looking options as well.

keep it up!

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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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Arachnyd you've pretty much summed up everything I've been thinking since the start of this project. Very well said.

Also a 3d printer....that's perfect for prototyping, I don't know why no one else thought of it. Probably because no one has access to one, but if one did, a printer could (depending on the printers capabilities of course) easily make a mock up shroud with crazy contours and lines. Too bad they're expensive.

Lastly, the projectors themselves. I know I've already said this but there really isn't a need for 2 actual projectors. The money could be put toward a single Bi-Xenon option for the outer light source and what looks like a projector lens for the inner with a super bright white SMT led tower, very similar to our DRL led's. This way you could offset the alignment because the difference in size just like Arachnyd was saying.
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Arachnyd you've pretty much summed up everything I've been thinking since the start of this project. Very well said.

Also a 3d printer....that's perfect for prototyping, I don't know why no one else thought of it. Probably because no one has access to one, but if one did, a printer could (depending on the printers capabilities of course) easily make a mock up shroud with crazy contours and lines. Too bad they're expensive.

Lastly, the projectors themselves. I know I've already said this but there really isn't a need for 2 actual projectors. The money could be put toward a single Bi-Xenon option for the outer light source and what looks like a projector lens for the inner with a super bright white SMT led tower, very similar to our DRL led's. This way you could offset the alignment because the difference in size just like Arachnyd was saying.
I actually do have access to a 3d printer and that is where I was planning on prototyping the shrouds. I really like that idea of having a bi-xenon and an led DRL I never thought of that, I'll look up parts later and come back with a price. And they are staggered u just can't tell in the picture. And I will round it off I like that too. Thanks everyone
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Take a look at these projector choices you guys...

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=236

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...oducts_id=3181
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