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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Spaz
How's that work? The way the top goes up/down, I don't see a way to install one. Unless that means doing away with the top, which ain't gonna happen here.


In other cars, I never really had an issue with driving them in a drift or playing on public highways (done safely of course). This thing though is a different story. The break away speed is so fast, I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of forgiveness when it decides to go. So I haven't played to find out. I'd like to get mine onto a track just to find out where the point of no return is. At low speed it seems pretty tame and predictable. But it's so light, and so different than other suspensions I've driven, I don't feel real good where I think the limit is.

I also think about the fact that even the guys driving on TV stick cars in the weeds every week. They have insurance tho, called sponsors.
part of what you're experiencing is physics. if you take a car that's tame to drive at the limit like the integra type r, which by the way is one of my top choices for someone learning to drive on the track. add a set of slicks and stiff coilovers along with a turbo to bring the power up you'll also have a car that breaks fast. in stock form you have 2550lbs and 200hp with a great transmission. you can focus on driving and not worry about the car. with higher hp you will start having to pay a lot more attention to the car. this is what you experienced with your corvette. it's power to traction ration is already up there. it's also why it felt nimble and forgiving at slower speeds.

if you ever wanted to work specifically on your driving skills you can always short shift for a similar experience. for example if you shift at 4k while on an HPDE, every gear, 4k is the new redline. well you won't have to fight the car and can concentrate on driving. when you turn 3 laps within a tenth bring it up to 4500 and so on and so forth. eventually you will get to the point that driving all out is much easier.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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I found this after a very short search and it looks like a fairly decent roll bar but then again I dont know much about them.
http://www.wolferacecraft.com/install/c5/c5conv.aspx
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by racebum
part of what you're experiencing is physics. if you take a car that's tame to drive at the limit like the integra type r, which by the way is one of my top choices for someone learning to drive on the track. add a set of slicks and stiff coilovers along with a turbo to bring the power up you'll also have a car that breaks fast. in stock form you have 2550lbs and 200hp with a great transmission. you can focus on driving and not worry about the car. with higher hp you will start having to pay a lot more attention to the car. this is what you experienced with your corvette. it's power to traction ration is already up there. it's also why it felt nimble and forgiving at slower speeds.

if you ever wanted to work specifically on your driving skills you can always short shift for a similar experience. for example if you shift at 4k while on an HPDE, every gear, 4k is the new redline. well you won't have to fight the car and can concentrate on driving. when you turn 3 laps within a tenth bring it up to 4500 and so on and so forth. eventually you will get to the point that driving all out is much easier.
Good points. I guess I should have added that, it feels like this car doesn't give much warning. At least the way it's set up now. Even trying to get it to slide, it just ain't that easy unless I'm at much lower speed and and hard in the throttle. Other cars I've had were much more predictable and you just knew when the limit was nearing. Maybe that'll happen in this also, but not on the street with me driving, cause it worries me that there may be no warning. Till I know, I just don't get too froggy. Not at higher speeds anyway.

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I found this after a very short search and it looks like a fairly decent roll bar but then again I dont know much about them.
http://www.wolferacecraft.com/install/c5/c5conv.aspx
That's sorta what I'd be interested in. Removable!!! I'd feel like a guy driving around with a wing on the car if I had one of these in a daily driver.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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question, do you need a rollbar if you have a targa top?
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by slowe1956
question, do you need a rollbar if you have a targa top?
It might depend on the track, but at VIR, targa was OK.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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I think most tracks allow the targa and coupes without a roll bar unless you are at a strip and are going too fast. Also the targa and coupe have a halo built in which acts as a roll bar.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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thanks!!!
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 01:25 AM
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Welcome to the world of track Addicts! Your an official track rat

And i always need a fix!
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Originally Posted by rustyguns
Welcome to the world of track Addicts! Your an official track rat ... And i always need a fix!
By "a fix" I assume you mean a repair. Or maybe not.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by s'noJob
By "a fix" I assume you mean a repair. Or maybe not.
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lol you obviously are not into drugs A fix would be going to a track event and HAULING ***!
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Spaz
How's that work? The way the top goes up/down, I don't see a way to install one. Unless that means doing away with the top, which ain't gonna happen here.


In other cars, I never really had an issue with driving them in a drift or playing on public highways (done safely of course). This thing though is a different story. The break away speed is so fast, I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of forgiveness when it decides to go. So I haven't played to find out. I'd like to get mine onto a track just to find out where the point of no return is. At low speed it seems pretty tame and predictable. But it's so light, and so different than other suspensions I've driven, I don't feel real good where I think the limit is.

I also think about the fact that even the guys driving on TV stick cars in the weeds every week. They have insurance tho, called sponsors.
hey brother....Wolf RaceCraft on the east side of the country, and Angel Wings on the west side of the country both make roll bars for our Verts that allow us to pass inspection for HPDE's ;-)

The Angel Wings bar looks better but is more expensive....both can be installed and removed in an hour or so before or after an event once they are setup in your car.

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