Which Year C5 is the Most Reliable?
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Which Year C5 is the Most Reliable?
After a number of years on this forum, I have come to realize a couple of things.
1. The first year of any generation of any car has bugs and glitches to be worked out after the cars finally become available to the masses and are exposed to all of the different uses to which people put them.
2. Mods change the entire question as it depends entirely on the expertise of the person doing/choosing the mods and how complimentary those mods are to each other. (Driveability & reliability)
So, this thread is basically about stock cars and those with mods which are basically cosmetic and don't significantly change the basic operation of the vehicle. Mods such as Cat-back exhaust, CAI's, ect.
Since our cars were introduced in '97 (which had numerous new-model issues) and then '98's which still had a few, and then progressed to the '99's (which I personally think had most of the issues worked out), after that, GM started making significant changes and upgrades.
We have all read the numerous posts as to issues with various members' cars (which to that particular owner were not minor or irrelevant).
It is my contention that the '99's are by far and away the most reliable and "sorted out" of all of the C5's!!
I have owned two of them now, and the only thing I have had to do to either of them is drive, enjoy, and provide routine maintenance to them. Any mods I have done have been purely by choice and never by neccessity.
I would like to hear other owners' opinions as to this topic and see just how many other years of C5's can match the flawless performance and reliability of the '99's.
I think that '99 was the magic high point of the C5, tell me what you think. (Caveat, we all know about diminishing parts availability as models get older, EBCM's, etc. I am not talking about these things.) I am talking about things such as the piston-slap/oil usage of the later engines and other factory attributable issues that effect the inherent reliability/owner satisfaction of a particular model year. I also understand that all of these changes were made in a sincere effort to improve our cars. It's just that things don't always work out the way they were envisioned.
Sooooo..... now, tell me what you think. I am anxious to here all viewpoints!!
DSTURBD
1. The first year of any generation of any car has bugs and glitches to be worked out after the cars finally become available to the masses and are exposed to all of the different uses to which people put them.
2. Mods change the entire question as it depends entirely on the expertise of the person doing/choosing the mods and how complimentary those mods are to each other. (Driveability & reliability)
So, this thread is basically about stock cars and those with mods which are basically cosmetic and don't significantly change the basic operation of the vehicle. Mods such as Cat-back exhaust, CAI's, ect.
Since our cars were introduced in '97 (which had numerous new-model issues) and then '98's which still had a few, and then progressed to the '99's (which I personally think had most of the issues worked out), after that, GM started making significant changes and upgrades.
We have all read the numerous posts as to issues with various members' cars (which to that particular owner were not minor or irrelevant).
It is my contention that the '99's are by far and away the most reliable and "sorted out" of all of the C5's!!
I have owned two of them now, and the only thing I have had to do to either of them is drive, enjoy, and provide routine maintenance to them. Any mods I have done have been purely by choice and never by neccessity.
I would like to hear other owners' opinions as to this topic and see just how many other years of C5's can match the flawless performance and reliability of the '99's.
I think that '99 was the magic high point of the C5, tell me what you think. (Caveat, we all know about diminishing parts availability as models get older, EBCM's, etc. I am not talking about these things.) I am talking about things such as the piston-slap/oil usage of the later engines and other factory attributable issues that effect the inherent reliability/owner satisfaction of a particular model year. I also understand that all of these changes were made in a sincere effort to improve our cars. It's just that things don't always work out the way they were envisioned.
Sooooo..... now, tell me what you think. I am anxious to here all viewpoints!!
DSTURBD
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You, my friend should harbor no worries whatsoever!!!
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Of course the one you have is the best. Good rule of thumb is newer = better, age causing almost as much problems as wear once they get about 10yrs old. The older ones have more miles so they may seem better, but I'd (along with most people I've talked to that regularly work on them) say the 01-04s are probably the best. I think there were some specific issues with the Zo6s. On the other hand there are unrepairable problems with the ABS on the 97-2000 cars. I have a 160k 04 sitting here that is in better shape than a 110k 2000 that's here.
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My ebcm is whacked on my 99. Although it may be a grounding issue somewhere as it does come and go. Goes mostly though.
I just changed my OP sending unit. It has been done before because I found the cutout where they had cut an opening to replace it. (lucky me)
I had to fix my e brake. I had to do the ignition cleaning procedure. My paint is terrible if you really inspect the car closely.
But it's all good.
From what I've read here the 03 and 04 are the most reliable with few issues. But they don't have a FRC
I just changed my OP sending unit. It has been done before because I found the cutout where they had cut an opening to replace it. (lucky me)
I had to fix my e brake. I had to do the ignition cleaning procedure. My paint is terrible if you really inspect the car closely.
But it's all good.
From what I've read here the 03 and 04 are the most reliable with few issues. But they don't have a FRC
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It is my contention that the '99's are by far and away the most reliable and "sorted out" of all of the C5's!!
I have owned two of them now, and the only thing I have had to do to either of them is drive, enjoy, and provide routine maintenance to them. Any mods I have done have been purely by choice and never by neccessity.
I would like to hear other owners' opinions as to this topic and see just how many other years of C5's can match the flawless performance and reliability of the '99's.
I think that '99 was the majic high point of the C5, tell me what you think. (Caveat, we all know about diminishing parts availability as models get older, EBCM's, etc. I am not talking about these things.) I am talking about things such as the piston-slap/oil usage of the later engines and other factory attributable issues that effect the inherent reliability/owner satisfaction of a particular model year. I also understand that all of these changes were made in a sincere effort to improve our cars. It's just that things don't always work out the way they were envisioned.
Sooooo..... now, tell me what you think. DSTURBD
I have owned two of them now, and the only thing I have had to do to either of them is drive, enjoy, and provide routine maintenance to them. Any mods I have done have been purely by choice and never by neccessity.
I would like to hear other owners' opinions as to this topic and see just how many other years of C5's can match the flawless performance and reliability of the '99's.
I think that '99 was the majic high point of the C5, tell me what you think. (Caveat, we all know about diminishing parts availability as models get older, EBCM's, etc. I am not talking about these things.) I am talking about things such as the piston-slap/oil usage of the later engines and other factory attributable issues that effect the inherent reliability/owner satisfaction of a particular model year. I also understand that all of these changes were made in a sincere effort to improve our cars. It's just that things don't always work out the way they were envisioned.
Sooooo..... now, tell me what you think. DSTURBD
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I believe my first day of production 97 (one of the oldest C5s in existence) is equally as sound as any later model year.
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As to ABS brakes and EBCMs I am as familiar as any to the issues of availability/repair, etc. but I was just driving home from school today at 11:15, after having it cancelled because of the major storm bearing down on Colorado (seeeee, I told y'all mine was a DD!!!!!), in particular North-Eastern Colorado. The storm has started with freezing rain coating things with ice. It still freaks me out to no end to feel the brake pedal buzz like that when the ABS kicks in. However, the point is that it still works just fine! In particular in this kind of situation which does not happen much around here (much more frequent in the south). I could feel it react to the situation and conditions. Would vibrate the pedal when it was needed and not when it was not needed, all in one pedal application. Even though my natural reaction is to feather the pedal in icy situations from years of winter driving experience.
I guess my point here is that anything can fail at any time, but just how likely is it to fail on particular cars of particular model years?
DSTURBD
I guess my point here is that anything can fail at any time, but just how likely is it to fail on particular cars of particular model years?
DSTURBD
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I believe that GM made the last upgrades/improvements to the 2003 model year. (fuel pump moved to the tank, introduction of Magnetic Selective Ride Control, etc. ) These upgrades/improvements carried on unchanged into the 2004 model year. So I would have to say that the 2003/2004 model year C5 is the most "refined" of all the C5 years.
It could also be argued that the 2004 model year is the most recent, and therefore, all other things being equal, it has the least deterioration factor.
The 2004 model year also saw Machine Silver.....which personally I thought was way better than Quicksilver.
2004 was also the last time you would be able to get a Torch Red Corvette for 5 years.
In general buying the last model-year of any vehicle series is a wise move. Usually all bugs that are going to be fixed, are fixed, most if not all of the options become standard during the last model year, and huge discounts abound as the new model-series looms in showrooms.
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It could also be argued that the 2004 model year is the most recent, and therefore, all other things being equal, it has the least deterioration factor.
The 2004 model year also saw Machine Silver.....which personally I thought was way better than Quicksilver.
2004 was also the last time you would be able to get a Torch Red Corvette for 5 years.
In general buying the last model-year of any vehicle series is a wise move. Usually all bugs that are going to be fixed, are fixed, most if not all of the options become standard during the last model year, and huge discounts abound as the new model-series looms in showrooms.
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My ebcm is whacked on my 99. Although it may be a grounding issue somewhere as it does come and go. Goes mostly though.
I just changed my OP sending unit. It has been done before because I found the cutout where they had cut an opening to replace it. (lucky me)
I had to fix my e brake. I had to do the ignition cleaning procedure. My paint is terrible if you really inspect the car closely.
But it's all good.
From what I've read here the 03 and 04 are the most reliable with few issues. But they don't have a FRC
I just changed my OP sending unit. It has been done before because I found the cutout where they had cut an opening to replace it. (lucky me)
I had to fix my e brake. I had to do the ignition cleaning procedure. My paint is terrible if you really inspect the car closely.
But it's all good.
From what I've read here the 03 and 04 are the most reliable with few issues. But they don't have a FRC
I don't begin to claim that I understand our computer components, but some electrical laws do not change.......when voltage goes down, amperage goes up. Did you ever wonder why your '60's hot rod's starter would stick in "crank" mode if you pushed a low battery while trying to start it? Heat made the contacts stick and they could not release when you let off of the key. It continued to crank until lots of things melted!!!!!! Not a fun situation!!
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Since your question was reliability, I'd have to go with 01-04 automatic. Mostly because of lack of problems with column lock and EBCM repairs.
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My '00 had a number of issues, including the oil consumption problem, three leaking rear differential seals, and a leaking seal between the diff and tranny.
My '03, which I have owned for 3.5 years, has had absolutely zero problems. I have been very happy with it and hope that the problems stay away.
My '03, which I have owned for 3.5 years, has had absolutely zero problems. I have been very happy with it and hope that the problems stay away.
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As the original owner of a 1998 tr coupe 40.000 miles, I know a lot of you out there won't believe it but. I say 1998, because I have not had the early model hoax that ever one likes to speak of.
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When I bought my 99' I was hard pressed to find issues here on the forum or the Internet for that matter.
2001-04 have as many if not more issues with EBCM it's just there somewhat repairable.
You just don't see a whole lot of posts with issues on the 1999.
2001-04 have as many if not more issues with EBCM it's just there somewhat repairable.
You just don't see a whole lot of posts with issues on the 1999.