Optic,

You have access to a dyno - so how about some dyno comparisons as well as the 1/4 mile difference - it would be interesting to have both.

And oh BTW since you have more crap with you then a Christmas turkey I want witnesses :)

You ready to have your new toy spanked yet???

Les

 

This does not sound like a very scientific test.

 

Well well we can put another members foot in his mouth. Z06LES you have a Halltech and you have headers and the 30 pound injectors, your blue Daddy sporting nothing but the vararam awaits you. I challange Z06LES to any race he would like to do. In addition he can watch as we test the other cars and join in the spanking. This way when we are done they can Flame your car. Call me son 404-739-7106 or leave me your number.

Optic :smash:


[Modified by opticZ06, 7:49 PM 6/18/2002]

 

rb, What is more important to you wining real races, or the so accurate dyno's that match up so perfectly from all around the country? Fast cars are what important for me.How about you? We have seen dyno's don't match up, times from differant tracks on differant day's don't math up. Winning is the same all over. JMHO Ric

 

Ric,

I'm all for winning races , but this particular "test" just reads like one big mess. If you want to do a real test run a few 1/4 mile passes with one intake, change the intake in the parking lot, drive about 20 miles, come back the same day and make a few more passes with the new intake. Forgot about running different intakes on different cars with different drivers, weather station predictions, etc.. ;)


FWIW, I have no affiliation with any intake. My Z06 is stock.

--rb--

 

Jim that hoods looking good.

 

I thought you had a T-1C? What happened?

 

I went back to stock after I dyno tested. I will continue to run stock until I can dial in a MAF tuning tool (MAFT or AFR1) with Autotap and a wideband O2 sensor. I ordered Autotap last week and I am still waiting for it. Running an aftermarket air intake without PCM tuning is not worth it to me. I am not married to the T1-C. If the T1-C does not provide what I am looking for I can easily afford to run with something else. I am also installing a 172 degree thermo and a fan controller.

FWIW, I do not believe any of the intake kits will perform miracles with the stock motor.

 

Autotap for tunning an intake is IMHO a waste of peso.All these intakes are great and have had tons of thought laid into to them.If your going to drag race we always suggest as a begginers basic Blackwing/Stinger and shifter if its an auto we emphasize a stall converter.You CANT get accurate Dyno #'s on intakes stick to the track for true#'s.Even with the BIG fans on or off it makes a 2-3 pony diff untill your pulling at 4500+rpm.
A strange phenomenom has happened lately and thats recent consistency on C-5 Dyno #'s most so on LS6 equipped motors.My 01 when stock on the LPE Dyno pulled 309 HP and about 314 Tqe the weakest LS6 ever ,so lets get it straight I hold LOW #'S record UNDISPUTED CHAMP!!! But all of a sudden in the last 5-6 Mos the 405 motors are pulling within 4-8 HP of each other that is amazing consistency and its 90% due to factory tuning.
If I dynotune 10 405's I will be within 1-2 HP of each other.The other factor is engine temp,oil temp/brand and viscosity and various uncontrolable atmospheric conditions.

I for 1 am impressed with the job GM engineering is doing and it will only get better.Im not looking to get involved in this war but I have some LS1 cars with cnc 5.3 truck heads we make to our spec less $$$$ than LS6 and better flowing ,mild(very) cam and FLP system and Stingers running mid 11's on street tires with a 200.00 Black wing and we find that ultra flow on 5.7 liter motors doesnt matter its nice to have stage 3 heads but why???.
will your motor use 325+ CFM properly.On a stroker or even an all bore big cube motor is when I'm going to spend your money ,seen to many 46lb. injectors with 12:1 CR booster pumps and lots of waste for a great motor that needs additional breathing from intake and exhuast but my question is at what point if any do you hit a point of diminishing returns???The best of luck stay open minded and remember some bolt ons and tuning kits are a waste of pesos but you cant loose with a well designed header.Dave

 

David, You have to try a VaraRam on a vette to understand it realy is differant than the others, it not only works very well on the 02, but without and other futzing around with the tuneing. You have come a long way since the first time we talked!! Good post. Ric

 

So where can one get this VARARAM ?? How much ?

 

How can a MAFT or an AFR1 be tuned to bring down the LTFT without Autotap?

 

RG just posted he has them in stock. Ric

 

Mr. Ric, do you have any words of wisdom on the install of this dude??? :D

 

Dave good post i understood you!!! :lol:

 

ZO6LS6 Make sure you get a 12 pack of beer for the install it makes the time go by faster!! :cheers: :cheers: :yesnod:

 

I will be looking for your results. It seems to me that the Vararam seems to be getting slightly more performance than the T1. But is it worth REPLACING a T1 with a Vararam?

- Charley

 

Z06LES and I should be able to tell you that, we are planning to go to the 1/4 mile Friday, to beat the cars up again. He has the Halltech with the 30 pounders and headers, I have just the Vararam. I guess we will see.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

 

My VaraRam goes in in a cople weeks.. If anyone is intrested in one give me a call ;)