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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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love my 99 FRC...Lots of performance for what you can get one for.
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Originally Posted by Phanni
The C-5 chassis is identical for all models. There is no 'extra' bracing for any of the models.
well, kind of. the FRC has a top glued on the convertible frame which gave it something like a 12% stiffer frame vs the coupe
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Nah, the FRC is the poor man's wrencher car! You can get one for close to $7K less than a Z06 if you buy it right. $7K will yield you hours of fun in the garage wrenching on the parts you choose to modify the car to meet your specific needs (a streetable open track car, in my case).

That's how I look at it. I bought mine for $17K. At the time Z06's were going from $23 if you stole it to $25 for a clean driver. For the $7K I saved I've done heads, cam, headers, mufflers, intake, CAI, shocks, shifter, clutch, torque tube, etc and have bought two sets of tires and I'm still where I would be cost wise if I'd have bought a Z06. And, I've got a very streetable 415 WHP and 490 CHP.

Just my .02.

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And for the $7k - you already have the cam, intake, suspension, mufflers already taken care of. Plus you get a lighter carbon fiber hood. I guess it depends on who you want to do some of the work and how much you value your time. *shrug*
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 03:50 PM
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well, kind of. the FRC has a top glued on the convertible frame which gave it something like a 12% stiffer frame vs the coupe
No 'kinda' to it, the chassis is the same for all models.
The car may be a bit 'stiffer' due to the body, but it's got nohing to do with the frame (chassis).
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Phanni
No 'kinda' to it, the chassis is the same for all models.
The car may be a bit 'stiffer' due to the body, but it's got nohing to do with the frame (chassis).
it was your intent. saying the frames are all the same implies they are all identical. beings there is a stiffness difference that's worth noting
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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It's correct, that GM engineers planned the C5 frame to be used as a convertible first and foremost, in order to avoid adding bracing as they did in the C4 verts (thus adding weight). The hydroformed frame of the C5 is really what gave it the huge increase in stiffness over the C4.

The FRC is simply stiffer than all because it eliminates the removable roof panel (coupe), and actually adds a roof (vs vert), then drops all the weight from the removal of the rear glass.
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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Plus you get a lighter carbon fiber hood.
Just an FYI... The carbon fiber hood only came on the Z16 '04 ZO6 models.
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 95rtturbo
Just an FYI... The carbon fiber hood only came on the Z16 '04 ZO6 models.

These kinds of threads always bring out a lot of peoples misconceptions about what came or didn't come on certain models. I'm certainly no expert but I caught this one too.
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Originally Posted by kmetros
Nah, the FRC is the poor man's wrencher car! You can get one for close to $7K less than a Z06 if you buy it right. $7K will yield you hours of fun in the garage wrenching on the parts you choose to modify the car to meet your specific needs (a streetable open track car, in my case).

That's how I look at it. I bought mine for $17K. At the time Z06's were going from $23 if you stole it to $25 for a clean driver. For the $7K I saved I've done heads, cam, headers, mufflers, intake, CAI, shocks, shifter, clutch, torque tube, etc and have bought two sets of tires and I'm still where I would be cost wise if I'd have bought a Z06. And, I've got a very streetable 415 WHP and 490 CHP.

Just my .02.

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and if you do those same mods to a Z06 then you will have more power..compare apples to apples here..there is a reason the Z06 cost's a bit more then its counter parts
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Originally Posted by f6john
These kinds of threads always bring out a lot of peoples misconceptions about what came or didn't come on certain models. I'm certainly no expert but I caught this one too.
he is correct on his statement..only 04 Z06 got the carbon fiber hood..the coupe or vert did not get them
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kmetros
Nah, the FRC is the poor man's wrencher car! You can get one for close to $7K less than a Z06 if you buy it right. $7K will yield you hours of fun in the garage wrenching on the parts you choose to modify the car to meet your specific needs (a streetable open track car, in my case).

That's how I look at it. I bought mine for $17K. At the time Z06's were going from $23 if you stole it to $25 for a clean driver. For the $7K I saved I've done heads, cam, headers, mufflers, intake, CAI, shocks, shifter, clutch, torque tube, etc and have bought two sets of tires and I'm still where I would be cost wise if I'd have bought a Z06. And, I've got a very streetable 415 WHP and 490 CHP.

Just my .02.

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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by momo20
he is correct on his statement..only 04 Z06 got the carbon fiber hood..the coupe or vert did not get them

Uhhhhhhhh, yea that is what I knew to be correct too.
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
The FRC was an entry level Corvette designed to bring in a slightly different demographic, with a smaller MSRP and bare bones. It was an opportunity to get younger, less financially strong consumers into a Corvette.

I think GM internally referred to them as the Billy Bob or something like that.
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 12:45 AM
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I bought my FRC instead of a Z because I knew I would be upgrading or changing a lot of things to get the car I really wanted, I could have bought any car I wanted but I chose the FRC because I love the look of this body style, and now that she's slamming 630+ horses to the pavement I would not have done anything any different
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 01:34 AM
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^ You actually run the rear brake ducts or you do a stick on fakie?
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 01:46 AM
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As other have stated, FRC was an entry level Vette until 2001. At that time, the only FRCs were Z06s.

The FRCs before 2001 came with Z51 suspension and manual trans. After 2001, the weight was reduced, an LS6 replace the LS1, which meant higher HP and torque, bigger swaybars, beefed up suspension, different wheel camber, stiffer shocks with F41 suspension (Z06 only).
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Originally Posted by momo20
and if you do those same mods to a Z06 then you will have more power..compare apples to apples here..there is a reason the Z06 cost's a bit more then its counter parts
Didn't you read my original post? My budget was $23 to $24K. I chose to spend $17K on the car and $7K on mods and ended up with the car I wanted for my needs rather than $24K on a bone stock Z06. And I have another 85HP over stock. Either way I spent $24K. Isn't that apples and apples?
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FLZapped
And for the $7k - you already have the cam, intake, suspension, mufflers already taken care of. Plus you get a lighter carbon fiber hood. I guess it depends on who you want to do some of the work and how much you value your time. *shrug*
Really? The cam taken care of too? I don't think so. That was part of the problem, even after spending $24K I would have a car that was making less power and would be less setup for my specific needs than would be the case if I spent the $17K on the FRC and another $7K in mods. Oh, and I have an extra 85 HP at my disposal.

BTW, no lightweight carbon hood on Z06's until '04, which was WAY out of my budget. Thinner glass windshield, yea, I'll give you that.

As far as my time, wrenching is my hobbie. I have a job, wife, two kids, a mortgage, 3 sailboats, a kayak and a Corvette. I don't have a lot of free time, but when I do, wrenching is my choice. Hell, I don't even watch TV anymore.

To each his own, but for the same $24K I had a lot of FUN wrenching and have the car I want for my needs. If you just want to get in it and drive it, then get the Z06....GM's done everything for you already.

Kurt
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by racebum
it was your intent. saying the frames are all the same implies they are all identical. beings there is a stiffness difference that's worth noting

Really?
You knew my intent when I said, " The C-5 chassis is identical for all models. There is no 'extra' bracing for any of the models. "
damn.
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Originally Posted by RC000E
^ You actually run the rear brake ducts or you do a stick on fakie?
There is nothing fake on that ride, when I installed the C6z06 brakes we went ahead and added the cooling ducts, not that they really help much.
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