Lug socket HELP
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Melting Slicks
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Lug socket HELP
what kind of socket are you guys using to torque down after market wheels? i have a set of tsw nurburgring and im scuffing up the lug nut hole. i went to sears and bought their slimmest socket but it just barely clears and still rubs on the wheel a bit.
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That looks like an impact socket you are using, Get a thin walled socket and you should be fine. I have also seen them with a plastic coating on the outside.
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The guys are right. Get a chrome thin wall for torqueing the nuts. If you want to use an impact socket up for your pit impact wrench, Harbor Freight sells this little kit that consists of a very short extension and three two-way impact sockets (19mm, 21mm, 15/16 etc) that is thinner walled than standard impact sockets and fits the TSWs just fine. The kit is handy and it's only about $10.
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I just ordered one of these to use on my new wheels.
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I have never used an impact and will never, I use a 4 way and then I have a torque wrench to finish up the task..
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forget all that...you need to get the new style splined lugnuts for aftermarket wheels...they come with the thin drive tool/nut made specifically for the smaller holes....got mine on Ebay for around $21 shipped. Here is an example...don't feel bad...I didn't know about these either until I got into the big brake project.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Spline-Drive-Tuner-Small-Diameter-Wheel-Lug-Nuts-M12x1-5-Qty-20-/140989184808?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20d39c3b28&vxp=mtr
I am shocked the vendor you bought the wheels from didn't alert you to the new design, unless you bought the wheels used, but even then...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Spline-Drive-Tuner-Small-Diameter-Wheel-Lug-Nuts-M12x1-5-Qty-20-/140989184808?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20d39c3b28&vxp=mtr
I am shocked the vendor you bought the wheels from didn't alert you to the new design, unless you bought the wheels used, but even then...
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forget all that...you need to get the new style splined lugnuts for aftermarket wheels...they come with the thin drive tool/nut made specifically for the smaller holes....
I am shocked the vendor you bought the wheels from didn't alert you to the new design, unless you bought the wheels used, but even then...
I am shocked the vendor you bought the wheels from didn't alert you to the new design, unless you bought the wheels used, but even then...
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Yes i went out and bought an impact socket. i normally would use a 4 way but it kills my back (lower back injury)
those look like they'll work. thanks
why not? dont they use impact guns when you get new tires mounted at a shop?
i saw similar lugs from gorilla. i wasnt sure if its safe to use thinner lugs on wheels though. i bought these wheels used
I just ordered one of these to use on my new wheels.
Sunex 284919 1/2-Inch Drive 19-mm Extra Thin Wall Wheel Protector Impact Socket - Amazon.com
Sunex 284919 1/2-Inch Drive 19-mm Extra Thin Wall Wheel Protector Impact Socket - Amazon.com
forget all that...you need to get the new style splined lugnuts for aftermarket wheels...they come with the thin drive tool/nut made specifically for the smaller holes....got mine on Ebay for around $21 shipped. Here is an example...don't feel bad...I didn't know about these either until I got into the big brake project.
Chrome Spline Drive Tuner Small Diameter Wheel Lug Nuts M12x1 5 Qty 20 | eBay
I am shocked the vendor you bought the wheels from didn't alert you to the new design, unless you bought the wheels used, but even then...
Chrome Spline Drive Tuner Small Diameter Wheel Lug Nuts M12x1 5 Qty 20 | eBay
I am shocked the vendor you bought the wheels from didn't alert you to the new design, unless you bought the wheels used, but even then...
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are they the same ones scooter70 mentioned?
The guys are right. Get a chrome thin wall for torqueing the nuts. If you want to use an impact socket up for your pit impact wrench, Harbor Freight sells this little kit that consists of a very short extension and three two-way impact sockets (19mm, 21mm, 15/16 etc) that is thinner walled than standard impact sockets and fits the TSWs just fine. The kit is handy and it's only about $10.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
I have never used an impact and will never, I use a 4 way and then I have a torque wrench to finish up the task..
why not? dont they use impact guns when you get new tires mounted at a shop?
Yes they do, Time is money, I have seen so many shops that use an impact and call it good and never follow up with a torque wrench not knowing what the torque was on the wheels they just installed. I have seen them even snap a lug a time or 2.
There is a reason the factory has torque specs for wheels.
A good 4-way bar gets the lugs on in a matter secs and then I torque them.
Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
I have never used an impact and will never, I use a 4 way and then I have a torque wrench to finish up the task..
why not? dont they use impact guns when you get new tires mounted at a shop?
Yes they do, Time is money, I have seen so many shops that use an impact and call it good and never follow up with a torque wrench not knowing what the torque was on the wheels they just installed. I have seen them even snap a lug a time or 2.
There is a reason the factory has torque specs for wheels.
A good 4-way bar gets the lugs on in a matter secs and then I torque them.
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Sorry, i just realized my mistake. i dint mean to say "torque" the wheels. it was just a general question for those with small clearance lug nut holes lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
I have never used an impact and will never, I use a 4 way and then I have a torque wrench to finish up the task..
why not? dont they use impact guns when you get new tires mounted at a shop?
Yes they do, Time is money, I have seen so many shops that use an impact and call it good and never follow up with a torque wrench not knowing what the torque was on the wheels they just installed. I have seen them even snap a lug a time or 2.
There is a reason the factory has torque specs for wheels.
A good 4-way bar gets the lugs on in a matter secs and then I torque them.
Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
I have never used an impact and will never, I use a 4 way and then I have a torque wrench to finish up the task..
why not? dont they use impact guns when you get new tires mounted at a shop?
Yes they do, Time is money, I have seen so many shops that use an impact and call it good and never follow up with a torque wrench not knowing what the torque was on the wheels they just installed. I have seen them even snap a lug a time or 2.
There is a reason the factory has torque specs for wheels.
A good 4-way bar gets the lugs on in a matter secs and then I torque them.
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Yes i went out and bought an impact socket. i normally would use a 4 way but it kills my back (lower back injury)
those look like they'll work. thanks
why not? dont they use impact guns when you get new tires mounted at a shop?
i saw similar lugs from gorilla. i wasnt sure if its safe to use thinner lugs on wheels though. i bought these wheels used
those look like they'll work. thanks
why not? dont they use impact guns when you get new tires mounted at a shop?
i saw similar lugs from gorilla. i wasnt sure if its safe to use thinner lugs on wheels though. i bought these wheels used
the new style is much stronger...look at how much engagement there is...also, the driver is heat treated rock hard...won't cam off or give you any problems...I put polyester tape around mine to protect the wheel paint...the guys at Discount Tire agree they are way better...just do it...what's $20 for your baby?
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oh man, you are worrying too much! the new style is much stronger...look at how much engagement there is...also, the driver is heat treated rock hard...won't cam off or give you any problems...I put polyester tape around mine to protect the wheel paint...the guys at Discount Tire agree they are way better...just do it...what's $20 for your baby?
the new style is much stronger...look at how much engagement there is...also, the driver is heat treated rock hard...won't cam off or give you any problems...I put polyester tape around mine to protect the wheel paint...the guys at Discount Tire agree they are way better...just do it...what's $20 for your baby?
