[Z06] Tire Idea?
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Tire Idea?
Does anyone think or know if it is possible to get enough interest together to have Michelin produce a batch of Pilot Super Sport tires in Z06 stock sizes? Is this something that we could maybe get a group buy and accomplish? Anybody ever hear of such a thing?
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at the same time they have tires made in ps2 and pss that are the same size. if they just took the few ps2 sizes that are not made in pss, made them in pss and dropped the ps2 all together they would only have one tire to produce
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Sounds like a great idea other than the fact that they would likely charge thousands of dollars per tire for such a low volume manufacturing run. That and the fact that they could probably care less that they dont make a stock tire size for one of their tires for a relatively rare car model that ended back in 04. But hey, ask them, its worth a shot! 
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I don't agree, there are too many Garage Queens running around with PS2's that never will switch to the SS's. You might think they will, with the current tire's performance, however it's doubtful that they will considering OEM implementations of PS2's which are manufactured.
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I don't agree, there are too many Garage Queens running around with PS2's that never will switch to the SS's. You might think they will, with the current tire's performance, however it's doubtful that they will considering OEM implementations of PS2's which are manufactured.
the ps2 tires sold today have been made in the past year. virtually no decent tire store sells tires over 12-18 months old
michelin is still actively producing them and they could be just as easily making the pss which would save on producing two compounds and casings
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I think he thinks that the PS2 is our OEM tire. That would at least explain his position. Of course, we know that the Eagle F1 Supercar is in fact our stock rubber.
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how can you say manufactured ? this isn't a bracket that could have been made in 1999 and still a good part to bolt on today
the ps2 tires sold today have been made in the past year. virtually no decent tire store sells tires over 12-18 months old
michelin is still actively producing them and they could be just as easily making the pss which would save on producing two compounds and casings
the ps2 tires sold today have been made in the past year. virtually no decent tire store sells tires over 12-18 months old
michelin is still actively producing them and they could be just as easily making the pss which would save on producing two compounds and casings
The SS's are also an OEM choice, just not the same as the PS2's already implemented on production rides.
I'm saying Michelin is racking in bucks because they have the ability to sell both tires, which means they are probably not going to be canceling PS2's any time soon.
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I say manufactured because it's the fact of the matter, nothing else. They don't just drop off the truck in a box for you to put on the car automatically.
The SS's are also an OEM choice, just not the same as the PS2's already implemented on production rides.
I'm saying Michelin is racking in bucks because they have the ability to sell both tires, which means they are probably not going to be canceling PS2's any time soon.
The SS's are also an OEM choice, just not the same as the PS2's already implemented on production rides.
I'm saying Michelin is racking in bucks because they have the ability to sell both tires, which means they are probably not going to be canceling PS2's any time soon.
#1 that's called cannibalizing and #2 michelin has to produce two items for one market. the ps2 and pss are the same class of tire.
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I know this, that's why the PS2's and the SS's have the ability to compete simultaneously, typically this is not the case. However, these two tires are not the same tire, they have very different properties and characteristics. It's certainly possible we might eventually see one tire in this class, though it's unlikely because there's still market productiveness for both tires.
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I know this, that's why the PS2's and the SS's have the ability to compete simultaneously, typically this is not the case. However, these two tires are not the same tire, they have very different properties and characteristics. It's certainly possible we might eventually see one tire in this class, though it's unlikely because there's still market productiveness for both tires.
still thinking? because i know i sure am
the ps2 has no advantage in any category over the pss.
the only the the ps2 does is cost more for less tire
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First of all, the PS2's weigh less than SS's because of the compounds used with the production of the tire. Also the exclusivity gives Michelin the ability to sell this tire with greater value, because of it's level of performance. Finally you won't find any tires in this category with more expertise, Michelin has far more implementation triumphs than competitors. Both tires will sell the numbers, that's the goal with these products.
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Perhaps, it's possible they might discontinue this tire and proceed with the SS's as the primary High Performance Summer Tire. I don't think they should, the PS2 weights substantially less in various sizes, including sizes with greater diversity than the SS's. If you do not track your car, it makes little sense not to run the PS2's.
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in 305 30 19 a ps2 weighs 28lbs and a pss weighs 30
in every test including mileage the pss is the superior tire
the only reason you would notice weight IS for performance and in the rain, dry, and treadlife the pss is better all around
this is why the ps2 is being discontinued
what would be nice is if they pick up the oddball ps2 sizes that are not currently produced in pss and start making them
would love to be able to use the pss on my oem speedlines
in every test including mileage the pss is the superior tire
the only reason you would notice weight IS for performance and in the rain, dry, and treadlife the pss is better all around
this is why the ps2 is being discontinued
what would be nice is if they pick up the oddball ps2 sizes that are not currently produced in pss and start making them
would love to be able to use the pss on my oem speedlines
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Clearly we disagree, don't know what else to say. Maybe if they drop some of the weight of the SS's, they might have ability to compete more. Right now, you can shed pounds of mass with PS2's at every corner, this is better than typical weight reduction, because of combinatoric weight savings.