How much left?
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Melting Slicks
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Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '14
John,
First, you still ahve one of the all-time best license plates - love that thing everytime I see it.
Thanks for your thoughts - makes perfect sense and straight to my points. Basically, I see no way to add a minimum of 30-40 hp without going to FI so I am not going to even consider that. Your final point I agree with totally. I recall that thread and I perhaps may have even been the OP in that thread. Anyway, that is the most relevant point that was made several times in the thread. The question is, what is that magic number where power can't get to the ground without losing traction. I guess the answer depends on a variety of factors, not limited to suspension, tires and driver skill. That said, I think the common answer was somewhere in the 500-700 range. I guess I am asking of people to be more specific with their opinion here as that is a wide range between 500 and 700.
First, you still ahve one of the all-time best license plates - love that thing everytime I see it.
Thanks for your thoughts - makes perfect sense and straight to my points. Basically, I see no way to add a minimum of 30-40 hp without going to FI so I am not going to even consider that. Your final point I agree with totally. I recall that thread and I perhaps may have even been the OP in that thread. Anyway, that is the most relevant point that was made several times in the thread. The question is, what is that magic number where power can't get to the ground without losing traction. I guess the answer depends on a variety of factors, not limited to suspension, tires and driver skill. That said, I think the common answer was somewhere in the 500-700 range. I guess I am asking of people to be more specific with their opinion here as that is a wide range between 500 and 700.
I think one of the things you can do to get more "seat of the pants acceleration" except FI is a gear change...
Maybe you need to post in the FI section and ask what needs to be done / did people do to handle 500-700HP
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Melting Slicks
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I'd still like to figure out what that magic number is where power is wasted because solid traction isn't possible under reasonable driving situations.
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Are you on street tires? Is 632 at the rear wheels not so much power that you risk spinning the rear end around if you make a minor mistake in judgement? I don't want to have to be overly careful about downshifting and standing on the gas, so I am trying to determine what is the highest power level I can have while still affording me that luxury?
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Your stock lower end will be OK and your drive train will hold up if you don't beat on it or launch with sticky tires at the track.
Yep what he said, street tires are going to be your weak link and will keep you from breaking stuff (90% of the time)
Yep what he said, street tires are going to be your weak link and will keep you from breaking stuff (90% of the time)
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Melting Slicks
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It really seemed like too much for a few months, but you will be amazed at how quick you find that kind of power very easy to deal with, it is 632 at the wheels, and to be honest it makes the car easier to drive at the edge or at least I've found it to be, the car breaks loose very easy and you power out of corners with ease, I'm using Hancook v-12 and traction in first is non existent but 2nd and 3rd gets better, I don't race my car, so for most yeah probably too much, but I love it
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Don't get me wrong, I drive like most normal adults, but that option is there, that's the really cool thing the power is there, but during normal day to day driving, it will drive just like the car you have now (centri supercharger) the power comes on in a very predictable way, making it pretty easy to use it safely, most everyone will say when you to 600 you will want 700 and so on. You adjust to it pretty quick. But in all honesty if you were driving daily and getting into the blower hard unless you live in the middle of nowhere you might get into some trouble with the local law enforcement guys.
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I think you are at the point of go big or go home. I am not sure there is a lot of options that are not forced induction. I think that you could be fine. My car runs about 6.5# of boost and I have learned how to drive it.
Install the SC get a very conservative tune and then later when this feeling of I need more power comes back (and it will) you can just retune the car and get out of the next round very cheap.
good luck on the quest
Install the SC get a very conservative tune and then later when this feeling of I need more power comes back (and it will) you can just retune the car and get out of the next round very cheap.
good luck on the quest
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Melting Slicks
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Don't get me wrong, I drive like most normal adults, but that option is there, that's the really cool thing the power is there, but during normal day to day driving, it will drive just like the car you have now (centri supercharger) the power comes on in a very predictable way, making it pretty easy to use it safely, most everyone will say when you to 600 you will want 700 and so on. You adjust to it pretty quick. But in all honesty if you were driving daily and getting into the blower hard unless you live in the middle of nowhere you might get into some trouble with the local law enforcement guys.
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Melting Slicks
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I think you are at the point of go big or go home. I am not sure there is a lot of options that are not forced induction. I think that you could be fine. My car runs about 6.5# of boost and I have learned how to drive it.
Install the SC get a very conservative tune and then later when this feeling of I need more power comes back (and it will) you can just retune the car and get out of the next round very cheap.
good luck on the quest
Install the SC get a very conservative tune and then later when this feeling of I need more power comes back (and it will) you can just retune the car and get out of the next round very cheap.
good luck on the quest