One in sun light the other in a garage light. 
Clay Bar
Safety Car
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If you can wash your car , you can clay your car.
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Race Director
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It's bright flourescent light set up at the dealership I bought the car from to highlight cars for Internet sales, not garage lighting, and the example is valid enough as it is clear that the "after" photo shows a much brighter shade of white. It doesn't matter that it's in the sunlight for purposes of the example. This isn't rocket science or brain surgery; the pics are good enough to make the point intended. Don't be so picky.
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Safety Car
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From: Southern Ca
It's bright flourescent light set up at the dealership I bought the car from to highlight cars for Internet sales, not garage lighting, and the example is valid enough as it is clear that the "after" photo shows a much brighter shade of white. It doesn't matter that it's in the sunlight for purposes of the example. This isn't rocket science or brain surgery; the pics are good enough to make the point intended. Don't be so picky.
Look same car , different light ,and different results. One looks bright and the other dull.Light does make a difference on your photos.I clay my car and I can see the difference .I am not being picky. Just stating my opinion.The only true way to tell the difference is to touch and see the the car in person.
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Race Director
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You completely missed the point of the post to begin with. You might want a pissing contest, but I don't. The lighting of the examples has nothing to do with the benefits of using a clay bar. If you'd like to discuss the point of this thread fine, otherwise go sit out in the sun some more. 
Safety Car
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From: Southern Ca
You completely missed the point of the post to begin with. You might want a pissing contest, but I don't. The lighting of the examples has nothing to do with the benefits of using a clay bar. If you'd like to discuss the point of this thread fine, otherwise go sit out in the sun some more.
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Wait a second... WOW... I can't believe so many uninformed people.. Clay does not make your car shiny. Clay has no polishes or waxes. Clay does one thing and one thing only. it removes singular contaminants from the clear coat. A bug, or a decomposed bug, a piece of road tar, or a drop of bee poop, or tree sap. Clay does not make a dull finish shiny, it only makes it free of any surface contaminants. It pulls out these contaminants without removing one micron of clear coat. You can lightly run your fingers over your finish and feel these surface contaminants, you don't need cellophane. No matter how much I try to educate people. Some people are clueless and remain clueless. No matter how condescending I try to be to get people attention. they just don't get it.
Yes !!! condescending to get attention.
Are many people clueless about Clay ??? absolutely. Proof is in this thread.
When a car is clayed it allows for a perfect application of a polish or a wax. Without clay, the surface is not as readily able to accept polish because of the contaminants found embedded in the clear coat. So you can either wet sand them out and remove some clear coat, or use clay and remove them safely without removing any clear coat.
Don't think I could make it any clearer. CLAY does Not Make your car Shiny
Yes !!! condescending to get attention.
Are many people clueless about Clay ??? absolutely. Proof is in this thread.
When a car is clayed it allows for a perfect application of a polish or a wax. Without clay, the surface is not as readily able to accept polish because of the contaminants found embedded in the clear coat. So you can either wet sand them out and remove some clear coat, or use clay and remove them safely without removing any clear coat.
Don't think I could make it any clearer. CLAY does Not Make your car Shiny
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Safety Car
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From: Southern Ca
Wait a second... WOW... I can't believe so many uninformed people.. Clay does not make your car shiny. Clay has no polishes or waxes. Clay does one thing and one thing only. it removes singular contaminants from the clear coat. A bug, or a decomposed bug, a piece of road tar, or a drop of bee poop, or tree sap. Clay does not make a dull finish shiny, it only makes it free of any surface contaminants. It pulls out these contaminants without removing one micron of clear coat. You can lightly run your fingers over your finish and feel these surface contaminants, you don't need cellophane. No matter how much I try to educate people. Some people are clueless and remain clueless. No matter how condescending I try to be to get people attention. they just don't get it.
Yes !!! condescending to get attention.
Are many people clueless about Clay ??? absolutely. Proof is in this thread.
When a car is clayed it allows for a perfect application of a polish or a wax. Without clay, the surface is not as readily able to accept polish because of the contaminants found embedded in the clear coat. So you can either wet sand them out and remove some clear coat, or use clay and remove them safely without removing any clear coat.
Don't think I could make it any clearer. CLAY does Not Make your car Shiny
Yes !!! condescending to get attention.
Are many people clueless about Clay ??? absolutely. Proof is in this thread.
When a car is clayed it allows for a perfect application of a polish or a wax. Without clay, the surface is not as readily able to accept polish because of the contaminants found embedded in the clear coat. So you can either wet sand them out and remove some clear coat, or use clay and remove them safely without removing any clear coat.
Don't think I could make it any clearer. CLAY does Not Make your car Shiny
Burning Brakes
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Look same car , different light ,and different results. One looks bright and the other dull.Light does make a difference on your photos.I clay my car and I can see the difference .I am not being picky. Just stating my opinion.The only true way to tell the difference is to touch and see the the car in person.
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Le Mans Master
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Thanks ET!! Keep the C5 knowledge coming.
BTW, Ignore the butthurt children that require kid gloves to be told their wrong.
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From: Phoenix area, AZ
No, it doesn't, but after using it on a 14 year-old paint job that's never had clay used on it, it does remove the 14 years of built-up contaminants that can discolor it. Then when the wax is applied the shine is clearer than when wax is applied over 14 years of contaminant build-up.
I'm not trying to argue with you ET, I'm the last person who would, but there is a noticeable difference in the appearance of the paint when 14 years of contaminants are removed. It's not shinier, but it is clearer, and the color stands out much more when a good coat of wax is applied to the clean paint vs the 14 year-old dirty.
I'm not trying to argue with you ET, I'm the last person who would, but there is a noticeable difference in the appearance of the paint when 14 years of contaminants are removed. It's not shinier, but it is clearer, and the color stands out much more when a good coat of wax is applied to the clean paint vs the 14 year-old dirty.
Melting Slicks
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From: Carson City Nevada
You completely missed the point of the post to begin with. You might want a pissing contest, but I don't. The lighting of the examples has nothing to do with the benefits of using a clay bar. If you'd like to discuss the point of this thread fine, otherwise go sit out in the sun some more.
Melting Slicks
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From: Carson City Nevada
All of the stars are cool. I'm thankfull he's been posting for a quite a while. I take every word ET says about the C5 as gospel. After all, He's one of the original C5 Design Engineers!!!!
Thanks ET!! Keep the C5 knowledge coming.
BTW, Ignore the butthurt children that require kid gloves to be told their wrong.
Thanks ET!! Keep the C5 knowledge coming.
BTW, Ignore the butthurt children that require kid gloves to be told their wrong.
Melting Slicks
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From: Carson City Nevada
Le Mans Master
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From: Hillsboro OR
It seems your avatar indicates you're the one with the fascination of man azz.
Melting Slicks
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Hmmm, going by that it seems to me that you are into critter love.
Last edited by o2bnkc; Aug 24, 2013 at 07:24 PM.
Huh?