cam i just ordered
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cam i just ordered
I saw this can at a good price and it had similar specs to other cams a lot of people are running plus I can use Ls6 springs. what do you guys think of the specs
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...00580/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...00580/10002/-1
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Should wake the car up quite a bit.
Are you sure about using stock springs, retainers, pushrods, timing chain.
I am no guru but my buddies showed me how to do the install of a Comp Cam: 228 230 580, 581 113 LSA with Patriot Gold Springs and retainers, hardened pushrods, LS2 timing chain and all the other supporting goodies.
Just wondering.
Are you sure about using stock springs, retainers, pushrods, timing chain.
I am no guru but my buddies showed me how to do the install of a Comp Cam: 228 230 580, 581 113 LSA with Patriot Gold Springs and retainers, hardened pushrods, LS2 timing chain and all the other supporting goodies.
Just wondering.
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Should wake the car up quite a bit.
Are you sure about using stock springs, retainers, pushrods, timing chain.
I am no guru but my buddies showed me how to do the install of a Comp Cam: 228 230 580, 581 113 LSA with Patriot II Gold Springs and retainers, hardened pushrods, LS2 timing chain and all the other supporting goodies.
Just wondering.
Are you sure about using stock springs, retainers, pushrods, timing chain.
I am no guru but my buddies showed me how to do the install of a Comp Cam: 228 230 580, 581 113 LSA with Patriot II Gold Springs and retainers, hardened pushrods, LS2 timing chain and all the other supporting goodies.
Just wondering.
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I'm about to put a GMPP ASA cam in my c5 next week its a 226/236 .525/.525 LSA is on a 110. Beastly sound and great power under the curve. Gm designed the cam for endurance style racing and to be used with the z06 springs. I don't know what your looking for, but in my research its not just lift that kills springs but the lobes ramp rate is also a big issue. Modern fast ramp cams make great power but they are much harder on valve train components.
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There are cams out there with better lobe technology to make more power, but that one will work well with stock springs at high rpm as it will have great valvetrain stability. Are stock springs a requirement?
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Well, that's a good price and an upgrade over stock.
Still, I agree with other posters on here--go with a 228 duration & .580 lift minimum/ 232 & .600 maximum. It will run strong while still safe for stock bottom end.
If you like a little shake, also go with 112 LSA or stay with the 114 if you like it to feel stock
Still, I agree with other posters on here--go with a 228 duration & .580 lift minimum/ 232 & .600 maximum. It will run strong while still safe for stock bottom end.
If you like a little shake, also go with 112 LSA or stay with the 114 if you like it to feel stock
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I'd use aftermarket springs instead of ZO6. There's some good beehive singles, and quality doubles that I would trust more, and are more capable. Sorry if you've already bought the cam, but I think you'll be disappointed. A 224-228, or better, 228-232 will give more power everywhere on the rev band, and if you want stock drivability, get them on 114-5 LSA.
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installing a cam is not cheap and to do it right (most of the time) means lifters
lifter trays
push rods
timing chain set
oil pump (sometimes)
Head work (springs, valve job, milling, etc.)
balancer (good time to replace)
new TTY bolts (most go with ARP)
gaskets
(I'm sure I've missed more)
and once it's all installed you are going to need a tune
Like I said, it's expensive to do it right and the cost of the cam itself is just one piece and it's not a place to cut corners.
I would do some research on here and see what others are using and get their feedback. I think you are about to go through a lot of work and you're not going to be happy in the end.
To make the most out of your investment I would recommend going with a cam/head package.
Good luck because this is an expensive slippery slope
lifter trays
push rods
timing chain set
oil pump (sometimes)
Head work (springs, valve job, milling, etc.)
balancer (good time to replace)
new TTY bolts (most go with ARP)
gaskets
(I'm sure I've missed more)
and once it's all installed you are going to need a tune
Like I said, it's expensive to do it right and the cost of the cam itself is just one piece and it's not a place to cut corners.
I would do some research on here and see what others are using and get their feedback. I think you are about to go through a lot of work and you're not going to be happy in the end.
To make the most out of your investment I would recommend going with a cam/head package.
Good luck because this is an expensive slippery slope
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this man (Geoff) knows LS cams very well
http://www.engpwrsys.com/tech-notes/cam-design.html
and so does this guy (Patrick)
http://www.guerragroup.com/#!camshaft-help/c1mq5
http://www.engpwrsys.com/tech-notes/cam-design.html
and so does this guy (Patrick)
http://www.guerragroup.com/#!camshaft-help/c1mq5
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installing a cam is not cheap and to do it right (most of the time) means lifters
lifter trays
push rods
timing chain set
oil pump (sometimes)
Head work (springs, valve job, milling, etc.)
balancer (good time to replace)
new TTY bolts (most go with ARP)
gaskets
(I'm sure I've missed more)
and once it's all installed you are going to need a tune
Like I said, it's expensive to do it right and the cost of the cam itself is just one piece and it's not a place to cut corners.
I would do some research on here and see what others are using and get their feedback. I think you are about to go through a lot of work and you're not going to be happy in the end.
To make the most out of your investment I would recommend going with a cam/head package.
Good luck because this is an expensive slippery slope
lifter trays
push rods
timing chain set
oil pump (sometimes)
Head work (springs, valve job, milling, etc.)
balancer (good time to replace)
new TTY bolts (most go with ARP)
gaskets
(I'm sure I've missed more)
and once it's all installed you are going to need a tune
Like I said, it's expensive to do it right and the cost of the cam itself is just one piece and it's not a place to cut corners.
I would do some research on here and see what others are using and get their feedback. I think you are about to go through a lot of work and you're not going to be happy in the end.
To make the most out of your investment I would recommend going with a cam/head package.
Good luck because this is an expensive slippery slope
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You don't need that small of a cam to achieve good drivability. Even if you don't have gears, or a higher stall, if you're modding the motor, you will. OTOH, if you want to increase performance, do those mods before changing your cam. (converter,gears)
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OP,
I think all of the above comments are in an effort to recommend that you think the cam install, parts requirements, etc., coupled with expectations all the way through before you start. Not during or after the install. Just sayin'''
I think all of the above comments are in an effort to recommend that you think the cam install, parts requirements, etc., coupled with expectations all the way through before you start. Not during or after the install. Just sayin'''
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Good luck with your install.