The shooter is dead because of the actions of the Corvette driver? I did not read about that.

 

The guy broke the law trying to be some kind of hero. Is that really the right thing to do? There is no evidence that he saved any lives.

 

"F-ckin' A!"

Gunny John

 

I'll second that "GUNNY"! Sounds to me like we have a few Don't get involved- wait on "daddy government" to fix things types on here!
The guy did what he thought was the right thing [and was] instead of
doing nothing like I believe some of these libertards on here would!

 

He could have gotten involved without being stupid.
Libertards? Are you twelve?

 

(Hold on, I'm going to pontificate.)

All those who have pointed out the problems that could have happened because of what the driver of the corvette did...are absolutely correct. He could have hit any number of innocent people. He could have been attacked and have been shot himself. He had no intrinsic right to endanger others in what was a manifestation of personal foolhardiness. He might have...etc., etc., etc. I repeat, all those who condemn him for his actions are correct.

And, to me, irrelevant. And even, more than a little, ___________(fill in the blank. I can't find the nuance I want.)

Those people are the universal and ever present "They;" In such as, "They said..." "They" are the always present Greek Chorus murmuring on the hillside judging the heroes and villains in the play of life.

Yes, I know that "They" are right and that I and the driver of the 'vette are wrong. It has ever been thus.

However,

Is there not some standard in your life that is "you" and not the "They of the Greek Chorus?" Is there not something in you that must say "This will not stand!"? Have we become such pusillanimous creatures that we shed individual courage and righteousness for the collective murmurings of the sheep-on-the-hillside? I refuse to delegate my moral responsibility to those who murmur.

I know I am a dinosaur, an anachronism, a creature of different age. I am old now, what is left of my hair is gray, but I swear to holiness I would have jumped on my horse/plane/bicycle/pogo stick and given chase to that evil that had manifested itself in my presence.

Yes, no doubt about it, the driver of the 'vette was wrong in so many ways. But I will have about me men and women who are fit to ride the river with; who still understand the duty to ride to the sound of the canon.

"They" are right; I am wrong. Bite my shorts.

Best Regards, really!

Gunny John

 

So libertards would have minded their own business and right wing extremists would have given chase with no regard for their own safety?
Do you really believe that?

 

I would have done the same thing!


I just feel sorry for that Mustang owner trying to catch the Vette chasing a Police car!

 

Well said and semper fi Gunny! Some body has to put it on the line sometimes but some will never understand.
P.S. to JR-01, No I'm not 12, I'm 66 years old and I also would not hesitate to give chase in that situation. I was probably more of a man at 12 than you are now. At 19 almost for sure...

 

My $.10 (inflation)

I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY with Gunny......WTH, PEOPLE!!! IMHO, crime is where it is today because CRIMINALS count on the weak, helpless, "sheep" that the vast majority of our society has become to stand by, their hands covering the "Gasp!" that their mouth has formed, all the while saying "Someone should DO something!" while the criminal gets away with whatever evil they've perpetrated. If the criminals of the world KNEW that the populace would in no way allow their actions....well, there'd be less crime. A great example are the drug dealers on corners, selling dope to YOUR kids and family members....if WE didn't allow it, and took whatever measures necessary to make it unsafe for the dealers to stand there, in broad daylight, selling their shiite, well, they'd go away.
Look at those towns where it has become MANDATORY for all residents to carry a firearm.....there's NO CRIME!!
People, citizens MUST get involved. With an "engaged" public, crime cannot prosper.

Kudos to the guy for getting involved. And, FWIW, what I saw and heard when I watched the video was that for most of the "chase," speeds were around 40 MPH. They only "reached" 100MPH, and there was no mention of the traffic or pedestrian situation.

 

^ Amen to that statement....

If people armed themselves in accordance with the laws and foundation of this country, criminals wouldn't see this society as a place for the taking. So many people buy into this "step aside...we're from the govt and we're here to help" bs. If you see a crime occurring, you have a CIVIC responsibility to DO SOMETHING about it.

 

Actually, he pursued the shooter and kept the dispatcher informed of their location via cell phone, which lead to the pursuit by police that eventually caused his (shooter's) death.

. . . and they almost had me convinced that "what if" I had zigged instead of zagged, I wouldn't have been wounded in Vietnam. As a side note, I don't think I've ever heard a Gunny use such big words.

 

How about a MORAL responsibility also?

 

Americans prove over and over again how stupid, irresponsible and incompetent they are. Do some of you people actually believe we all would be safer if every knucklehead was packing heat?

 

Actually if you do more research you will find out the police knew where the shooter was, were already in pursuit and converging on him. The dispatcher told the corvette driver to stop the high speed chase and get out of the way.
The guy did everything right until he started driving at high speeds through the city. That's when he became a danger to civilians and the cops.

This is the point where he should have let the cops do their job. The cops were on him.

 

It was an interesting exchange of opinions and a valid presentation of points of view...

until this.

Sorry, JR-01, you have proved yourself to no longer have have a legitimate or meaningful position in this conversation. This is such an egregiously puerile statement that nothing else you might say can be taken seriously.

BTW, It was bad enough when you profiled me as a "...right wing extremist(s)...". I have never mentioned politics in my posts and a "...right wing extremist(s)..." is the least thing those who know me would choose. (Actually, kinda funny!)

I wish you the best. Good Day.

Gunny John

 

Duh, tanks, DevilDog! I'm also an adjunct professor of Ancient Near Eastern Literature; and sometimes that snooty way of speaking comes out.

BTW, I'm prolly the only "Guns" you ever met who can "rip lips" in Ancient Aramaic.

Best regards to all,

Gunny John

PS. This thread has lost its allure. I'm going back to talkin' 'bout my sweet Corvette.

 

You know what they say. . . Gunny's run the Corps. We had a gunny in Vietnam that I would have followed to hell and back. He made one hell of an impression on this once 19-year old kid. I can't say the same about some of the officers we had. Semper Fi