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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by skydiven4fun
I don't think any answer to this would be the right one, But I'm glad to hear some people still try to assist in time of need, especially when someone else is in danger of getting shot as well.
You do what you gotta do.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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Not the smartest move to give chase. All he really did was put liability on himself. If he really wanted to help, triage the area, and help the victims.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by STALION
Not the smartest move to give chase. All he really did was put liability on himself. If he really wanted to help, triage the area, and help the victims.
That would be one move. The other would be to try to follow the shooter from a safe distance and report his location. Perhaps the victims were being attended to. Hard to say. I do believe the Corvette driver should have terminated the chase when speeds became unsafe. He would have been in big trouble had he hit someone.
Once I saw a hit and run. I followed the woman until she stopped, told her I saw what happened and had her plate number. She went back to the scene. I know it's a totally different situation.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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That would be one move. The other would be to try to follow the shooter from a safe distance and report his location. Perhaps the victims were being attended to. Hard to say. I do believe the Corvette driver should have terminated the chase when speeds became unsafe. He would have been in big trouble had he hit someone.
Once I saw a hit and run. I followed the woman until she stopped, told her I saw what happened and had her plate number. She went back to the scene. I know it's a totally different situation.
I can understand the want and the need to help, but following someone who might be driving erratic even at low speeds who also has a gun is not a good idea. Todays police cars are equipped with GPS tracking so no need to follow. Not to mention when shots are fired it is a priority one call, meaning all hands on deck and everyone will be hunting for this guy. It was a noble gesture, but a wrong reaction to the moment. There are some cases like the one you were involved with that I would say would be "acceptable" but this wasn't one of them.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by STALION
I can understand the want and the need to help, but following someone who might be driving erratic even at low speeds who also has a gun is not a good idea. Todays police cars are equipped with GPS tracking so no need to follow. Not to mention when shots are fired it is a priority one call, meaning all hands on deck and everyone will be hunting for this guy. It was a noble gesture, but a wrong reaction to the moment. There are some cases like the one you were involved with that I would say would be "acceptable" but this wasn't one of them.
I see your point. I do still think I would have followed the guy from a distance until it became too dangerous. I would have made sure the victims were being attended to first.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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Had he not followed, someone would be criticizing that. You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Having spent half my life in law enforcement I always enjoy the Monday morning quarterbacking. The split-second decision that I or one of my officers made were often critiqued for hours, days or weeks by someone sitting in a nice, comfortable office sipping coffee. I learned very early in my career that regardless of my actions, someone would always find fault with them.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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The hell with all these whiners...good for this guy. He's no more dangerous chasing the guy at 100mph than some random cop doing it in his own vehicle. A Corvette is a far more capable chase vehicle, without question...stock or "highly modified" like the news said (which is clearly...mehh).

It's the responsibility of every citizen to take action when something like this happens in order to save from further injury or bloodshed. If more people acted like this man, crime wouldn't be where it is today. People feel no threat from the vastly disarmed and passive public, they worry more about the police directly.

I've pursued multiple drunk drivers before and alerted police to their location. I don't give a f*ck if the cops like it or not. That's the problem with society today...no one steps up...everyone relies on the govt to wipe their a**.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RC000E
The hell with all these whiners...good for this guy. He's no more dangerous chasing the guy at 100mph than some random cop doing it in his own vehicle. A Corvette is a far more capable chase vehicle, without question...stock or "highly modified" like the news said (which is clearly...mehh).

It's the responsibility of every citizen to take action when something like this happens in order to save from further injury or bloodshed. If more people acted like this man, crime wouldn't be where it is today. People feel no threat from the vastly disarmed and passive public, they worry more about the police directly.

I've pursued multiple drunk drivers before and alerted police to their location. I don't give a f*ck if the cops like it or not. That's the problem with society today...no one steps up...everyone relies on the govt to wipe their a**.
.....and if the guy plowed into an SUV full of kids?
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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.....and if the guy plowed into an SUV full of kids?
Now hour getting it

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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by STALION
Not the smartest move to give chase. All he really did was put liability on himself. If he really wanted to help, triage the area, and help the victims.
I've have to agree. If no one else was in the area, it would be better to help the guy with the bullet wound. The cop car more than likely has a GPS or at least is readily identifiable.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
.....and if the guy plowed into an SUV full of kids?
. . . and if the guy decided to dump the squad car and car jack an SUV full of kids?
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
. . . and if the guy decided to dump the squad car and car jack an SUV full of kids?
The perp was out to kill people and most likely would have continued to do so given the opportunity.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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I think people are missing the big picture...following someone from a safe distance is one thing, following someone who is armed at high speeds in traffic is something else. Not to mention the guy following has no training and was unarmed. If anything happened this guy would have been liable.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by STALION
I think people are missing the big picture...following someone from a safe distance is one thing, following someone who is armed at high speeds in traffic is something else. Not to mention the guy following has no training and was unarmed. If anything happened this guy would have been liable.
Not to mention, just because a guy owns a corvette does not make him a better driver than anyone else. It doesn't make him Steve McQueen.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
. . . and if the guy decided to dump the squad car and car jack an SUV full of kids?
How would chasing him with a Corvette make it better?
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Z06Brucey
This happened in my town. Two APD officers were shot, and one female Deputy. She's still recovering in the ICU.
Anyone we know? That car looks familar
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
How would chasing him with a Corvette make it better?
Originally Posted by STALION
I think people are missing the big picture...following someone from a safe distance is one thing, following someone who is armed at high speeds in traffic is something else. Not to mention the guy following has no training and was unarmed. If anything happened this guy would have been liable.
I think everyone is missing the point. You can "what if" any scenario until you're blue in the face. What if there were no guns in the world? Would the police officer still be alive? The Corvette owner chased the shooter and nothing happened. As I said earlier, it's easy to sit all safe and cozy in our homes several days after the incident and critique the split-second reaction of someone else.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
I think everyone is missing the point. You can "what if" any scenario until you're blue in the face. What if there were no guns in the world? Would the police officer still be alive? The Corvette owner chased the shooter and nothing happened. As I said earlier, it's easy to sit all safe and cozy in our homes several days after the incident and critique the split-second reaction of someone else.
Chasing the shooter at high speed was irresponsible. Following him at a safe distance and speed was acceptable. Had he caused injury to others he would be in the cell next to the shooter.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Chasing the shooter at high speed was irresponsible. Following him at a safe distance and speed was acceptable. Had he caused injury to others he would be in the cell next to the shooter.
I wasn't there. You weren't there. I don't know why the Corvette owner decided to chase the shooter, and I'm not going to second-guess his actions as I sit in the safety and comfort of my home on a Saturday morning. Again, you can put any "what if" spin on it you want. I do know that the shooter (who shot 4 police officers) is dead because of the actions of the man, and no one else was injured.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
. . . and if the guy decided to dump the squad car and car jack an SUV full of kids?
The guy did the right thing! He's got "GUTS" which is a rare thing now days. You guys can "what if" till the cows come home but he took action and probably saved a few lives in the process! to him!
And to devil Dog II !
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