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so I picked up a 02 Z06 and the car just blows me away. i've been driving vettes since 98, and never had a Z. now, i wont do without one. only thing bugs me about this car: sharing the roads with other drives. its a sin. they need to get out of the way.
but i only drive on the street, and its a daily driver, lots of stop & go traffic. if i want to up the performance (more torque than HP) while not compromising reliability or drivability, what cam sizes should i consider?
yes, adding LT headers, air intake and a tune are a given. this is last of the mods, but want to get it right...
If your looking for a camshaft with great drivability and a broad powerband I would recommend taking a look at the TSP 228R. Typical gains of 45-50rwhp with no loss in drivability.
From: Wylie TX --> Less is More, except under the hood !
I agree with the guys above.
I have the LG's G5X1-E cam (same range as cams mentioned above) and love it for its drivability.
No bucking/surging and its not hard on the springs.
I make decent HP/TQ with it too. 471/441 to the rear wheels.
Of course as with ANY cam install.... A GOOD tuner makes all the difference in how a cam works with your car.
I have 3 cams so far, my best was 224/230 114 LSA, its a XER lobe notorious for valve train instability and valvetrain noise, however i never had valvetrain issue nor noise. I highly regret selling that cam.
Power under the curve, no bucking in heavy traffic, small lope at idle at 850 rpm, once engine is warmed up very quiet with barely hint of lope.
Although you have lot of choices like A&A stage 2 blower Cam works great even for NA, ECS small blower Cam, 224/224 (i really like split Cam though), 228/228, Lpe GT1-1 this one is impossible anyone notice is there any aftermarket Cam 215/231 118 LSa but .644 lift on exhaust that is steep though, Lpe GT1 218/229 113 LSA...so on.
If you want torquish Cam than LPE 218/229 113 LSA or Katech has one called Torque monster cam dont know the spec but it has 112 LSA.
Last edited by sami85L98; Dec 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM.
I have the LG's G5X1-E cam (same range as cams mentioned above) and love it for its drivability.
No bucking/surging and its not hard on the springs.
I make decent HP/TQ with it too. 471/441 to the rear wheels.
Of course as with ANY cam install.... A GOOD tuner makes all the difference in how a cam works with your car.
Toque
Your power has a LOT to do with those heads you got. 471/441 to the wheels is incredible for a street-driven 346. I'm heads/cam/intake mani/air intake/1.75 headers/high-flow catted X and my car made 424/382 to the wheels (85 degrees and 91 octane, but still no more than 435rwhp under the best of circumstances); supporting mods make a big difference, in addition to cam choice.
Crazy this is the first thread I saw when I logged on tonight......just got done chatting with a buddy about doing heads/cam.....
I've got an 02, 18k miles, vararam intake, mufflers only exhaust. Had in dyno'd a month ago, 375hp 365tq.
Now to my question....I really want heads/cam but don't have the money to spend on heads. Would it be completely stupid to do a cam only? Remember I have stock exhaust besides mufflers.
Oh and OP, sorry to hijack.....but that video clip got me going
From: Wylie TX --> Less is More, except under the hood !
Originally Posted by rjwz28
Your power has a LOT to do with those heads you got. 471/441 to the wheels is incredible for a street-driven 346. I'm heads/cam/intake mani/air intake/1.75 headers/high-flow catted X and my car made 424/382 to the wheels (85 degrees and 91 octane, but still no more than 435rwhp under the best of circumstances); supporting mods make a big difference, in addition to cam choice.
I agree with you. I have been told that my AFR205 heads milled to 59cc made a big difference in my numbers.
I have 3 cams so far, my best was 224/230 114 LSA, its a XER lobe notorious for valve train instability and valvetrain noise, however i never had valvetrain issue nor noise. I highly regret selling that cam.
Power under the curve, no bucking in heavy traffic, small lope at idle at 850 rpm, once engine is warmed up very quiet with barely hint of lope.
Although you have lot of choices like A&A stage 2 blower Cam works great even for NA, ECS small blower Cam, 224/224 (i really like split Cam though), 228/228, Lpe GT1-1 this one is impossible anyone notice is there any aftermarket Cam 215/231 118 LSa but .644 lift on exhaust that is steep though, Lpe GT1 218/229 113 LSA...so on.
If you want torquish Cam than LPE 218/229 113 LSA or Katech has one called Torque monster cam dont know the spec but it has 112 LSA.
I agree, one of my favorite average power medium size cam in a LS6 is a 224/230 XFI Comp on a 113, as the earlier IVC will promote more torque with better DCR and the traditional split with larger exhaust lobe will promote better high rpm efficiency with the I/E flow ratio of the LS6 heads over the 228R. With less overlap it'll drive slightly better as well all else equal.
If your looking for a camshaft with great drivability and a broad powerband I would recommend taking a look at the TSP 228R. Typical gains of 45-50rwhp with no loss in drivability.
Another 228r owner checking in. I've got to disagree with this 45-50whp claim though. You're not going to make that much over just an ls6 cam. You might get 35rwhp if you combine it with an underdrive pulley.
so I picked up a 02 Z06 and the car just blows me away. i've been driving vettes since 98, and never had a Z. now, i wont do without one. only thing bugs me about this car: sharing the roads with other drives. its a sin. they need to get out of the way.
but i only drive on the street, and its a daily driver, lots of stop & go traffic. if i want to up the performance (more torque than HP) while not compromising reliability or drivability, what cam sizes should i consider?
yes, adding LT headers, air intake and a tune are a given. this is last of the mods, but want to get it right...
mahalo
For YOUR usage, I would recommend the STOCK Z06 cam.. WHY would you change it....it's PERFECT!
For YOUR usage, I would recommend the STOCK Z06 cam.. WHY would you change it....it's PERFECT!
He wants to go even more faster, coming from a Lpe 383 stroker C4 and when i bought stock C5 Z06, i was like man this is nice car goes fast however why it dont pull hard like my 383 C4......i started tearing up for more powa.....now at 600 Rwhp......boooyah, passing lanes aint no problemo.
He wants to go even more faster, coming from a Lpe 383 stroker C4 and when i bought stock C5 Z06, i was like man this is nice car goes fast however why it dont pull hard like my 383 C4......i started tearing up for more powa.....now at 600 Rwhp......boooyah, passing lanes aint no problemo.
Even compared to my LT1 Camaro, no torque. I figure a set of longtubes and a cam could fix that though. 228R sized cams are what I've been eying up.
Even compared to my LT1 Camaro, no torque. I figure a set of longtubes and a cam could fix that though. 228R sized cams are what I've been eying up.
Upping compression is an easy way to add torque. If it's more torque than horsepower that you want, a milled LS6 head with a small (224 or so) cam will meet that requirement. Should be very nice in the torque department.
Crazy this is the first thread I saw when I logged on tonight......just got done chatting with a buddy about doing heads/cam.....
I've got an 02, 18k miles, vararam intake, mufflers only exhaust. Had in dyno'd a month ago, 375hp 365tq.
Now to my question....I really want heads/cam but don't have the money to spend on heads. Would it be completely stupid to do a cam only? Remember I have stock exhaust besides mufflers.
Oh and OP, sorry to hijack.....but that video clip got me going
You know there is an EPS grind floating around, it's like 226/230 .580ish, I'm sure on whatever LSA and ICL you want. I keep forgetting about it, but I think that would be an excellent cam and it puts down the numbers too. Perhaps I'll hunt some down, that grind isn't on his site right now.
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