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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Solstice was cute, but underpowered and too small. That was their last attempt at an alternative 2 seater.
I'd purged that one from memory, probably to protect myself from memories of my (thankfully short) Fiero ownership. "Cute", "underpowered", and "too small" pretty much described the Fiero as well, with the added complexity of being mid-engine.
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I'd purged that one from memory, probably to protect myself from memories of my (thankfully short) Fiero ownership. "Cute", "underpowered", and "too small" pretty much described the Fiero as well, with the added complexity of being mid-engine.
Fieros were plastic, not fiberglass, Right? I remember way back when, a
school bus hit one in town and the Fiero opened up like it was made of cardboard.
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It won't be the C-7 that ends the Corvette, it might be lack of sales.
The hype of the C-7 by the media is outstanding in almost every way, now it's up to the consumer to buy them. I do know that every C-7 that has gone on the show room at our club's sponsoring dealership has sold within a few days. (BTW that's about 6-7 already)

Besides, Most folks that post here on the C-5 forum will not be buying a new Corvette, I do know that I won't.

In fact, I'll never buy another new car, plain and simple. I'll let the folks with the need to boost their egos lose all that money on initial depreciation.
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Originally Posted by Phanni
It won't be the C-7 that ends the Corvette, it might be lack of sales.
The hype of the C-7 by the media is outstanding in almost every way, now it's up to the consumer to buy them. I do know that every C-7 that has gone on the show room at our club's sponsoring dealership has sold within a few days. (BTW that's about 6-7 already)

Besides, Most folks that post here on the C-5 forum will not be buying a new Corvette, I do know that I won't.

In fact, I'll never buy another new car, plain and simple. I'll let the folks with the need to boost their egos lose all that money on initial depreciation.
It could be....A lot of the old school folks don't like it...and many of the younger folks don't care or can't afford it. That niche may be the overall "lack of sales" for that generation of Corvette.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
I would love to see a basic Vette for the rest of us. A true sports car. I don't need all the bells and whistles or the high tech gadgetry that add thousands to the price. Build a basic solid sports car with 400 hp. I think its a good possibility that the Vette may die off. At 80Gs a pop they may be pricing themselves out of the marketplace. The country does need a good two seater sports car for the masses.
In 1999 that is exactly what GM tried to do with the "Billy Bob" Fixed Roof Coupe. In two years in morphed into the Z06. You might ask yourself why, before you declare yourself a marketing guru.
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This is an interesting topic. I have raced and rode Ducati's since 95. I remember when I ordered my 2005 999R and it cost me $28,500 in 2004. I was telling the dealer that they are pricing themselves out of the market when my 2004 Yamaha R1 was $12,000 brand new and every bit as fast if not faster and more quick on the track. The next Ducati that came out was the 1098 and 1198 bikes which came down $7,000-$10,000 depending on the model. Now they have the Panigali out which about $22,000 for the "S" model and the "R" is back up to $28,000. Ducati is strong in market sales and have weathered the storms due to their strong following. I believe the Corvette will do the same. Too many people like them and you will continue to get new fans/owners.
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Originally Posted by Phanni
In 1999 that is exactly what GM tried to do with the "Billy Bob" Fixed Roof Coupe. In two years in morphed into the Z06. You might ask yourself why, before you declare yourself a marketing guru.
Wrong. It was the same car with a different shape and non removable roof. Bad idea. A sports car needs an open top.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Wrong. It was the same car with a different shape and non removable roof. Bad idea. A sports car needs an open top.
The FRC was a bad idea but remaking the C5, that first hit the lots seventeen years ago, and charging $40k for it is a good idea?
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Wrong. It was the same car with a different shape and non removable roof. Bad idea. A sports car needs an open top.
Well darn, I thought I had a sports car and now I find out all I have is a "Bad idea" .
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Wrong. It was the same car with a different shape and non removable roof. Bad idea. A sports car needs an open top.
If you are of the opinion that a car must be open roof to be a sports car, then you're correct within your limited scope of vision.
You'd also be saying the Z06 Corvette is not a sports car, as well as several Porche' and a few other "exotics".

The fact is that the FRC was built to fill a niche that was felt might fill a need for a lower cost entry level Corvette.
You wish to argue semantics, I wish to give facts.
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The C7 should boost the brand IMO. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by f6john
The mid to upper level middle-class is dieing in this country, therefore the pool of potential buyers is shrinking. I hope to see a turn around in our economy but I'm not holding my breath.

I can see GM keeping the Corvette alive as a flagship model that they use to introduce new innovations in automotive technology, but there could be a limit as to how much money they are willing to commit to a loss leader. JMHO
you see retail sales figures? auto sales figures? they are stronger than they have been in years, all this in the face of the obamacare tax.

the c7 is more popular than any other generation to date drawing in a LOT of import die hards and younger people. now younger people may not be able to afford one now, but, it is making them notice the brand and that's something GM has never done before.
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you will note that gm was kept afloat only by the good graces and generosity of the American taxpayer. chevy, cadillac, buick, gm are the only survivors of what was once a truly substantial entity. after the discontinuation of what were once major international brands, you can really say with strong conviction that corvette will survive? your logic surely escapes me. i for one believe that given the REAL status of our economy, nothing is a "given", going forward.
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you will note that gm was kept afloat only by the good graces and generosity of the American politician. chevy, cadillac, buick, gm are the only survivors of what was once a truly substantial entity. after the discontinuation of what were once major international brands, you can really say with strong conviction that corvette will survive? your logic surely escapes me. i for one believe that given the REAL status of our economy, nothing is a "given", going forward.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Fieros were plastic, not fiberglass, Right? I remember way back when, a
school bus hit one in town and the Fiero opened up like it was made of cardboard.
Technical term IIRC is "sheet-molded compound", probably just as close to traditional "fiberglass" as the stuff our C5 body panels are made of. Similar construction too, with molded body panels bolted and glued to a steel substrate.
As with the Corvette, the body panels were not structural. But whatever faults the Fiero had (and believe me there were many), structural fragility wasn't one of them.

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I think GM will put more into the camaro and that could kill the corvette. They are a little more affordable and may have a higher profit margin.
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