[Z06] Z06 E.T.s
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Z06 E.T.s
I've never created a poll before, so forgive me if I screw this up. But I'm looking for STOCK E.T.s on 2001 and 2002 Z06's.
No drag radials, no airboxes. Just curious as to what folks are getting them to run straight off the showroom floor.
No drag radials, no airboxes. Just curious as to what folks are getting them to run straight off the showroom floor.
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (Tom Steele)
Hmm,
Looks like I should have had the choices broader and gone to a slower e.t. Just out of curiousity, how many of you checking the 12.70-12.79 or slower box were slower - and how much?
Thanks
Looks like I should have had the choices broader and gone to a slower e.t. Just out of curiousity, how many of you checking the 12.70-12.79 or slower box were slower - and how much?
Thanks
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (Tom Steele)
Ok, with 28 votes I am showing an APPROXIMATE (I used the high numbers to make up, in part, for the fact that some of the 12.79s could be higher) average e.t. of 12.53.
Drifting
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (Tom Steele)
Tom,
Taking an average of average is not telling you anything. If you truly want average E/T (Stock) you will have to use actual numbers and get a representative sample. The poles are interesting, just not scientific.
Les
Taking an average of average is not telling you anything. If you truly want average E/T (Stock) you will have to use actual numbers and get a representative sample. The poles are interesting, just not scientific.
Les
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (Tom Steele)
Ok, with 28 votes I am showing an APPROXIMATE (I used the high numbers to make up, in part, for the fact that some of the 12.79s could be higher) average e.t. of 12.53.
http://www.corvettechallenge.info/
This is the best I could do with my factory stock Z06 the first time out on a very hot day. I am car 914, the other car was an LT1 6-speed. I would say that my results are unimpressive, but a lot of other stock Z06 cars were running worse. Running a quick E.T. as not as easy as most people think.
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (rbartick)
Running high 12's bone stock is a big deal at many tracks, especially in the summer.
I was using my "Ghetto Race-o-Meter" and determined that a typical driver driving at 100% should knock down a 12.7. This will be my goal.
The way my Ghetto Meter works is:
Take an existing ET of a bone stock car you observe (drive). Record it's weight, HP and ET.
To calculate the target car, Subtract the weights and divide by 1000.
Subtract the HP's and divide by 100.
If the target car weighs less, subtract weight # from the observed ET, plus adds.
If the target car makes more power, subtract the HP #. Or vice versa.
This is based on my obsevation of my last car and what happened when I changed the car. I have also guessed peoples ET's pretty good with it.
Example: A Camaro SS weighs 3500 and puts out 310rwhp runs 13.5 on crappy F1's.
A Z weighs 3100, makes 350rwhp, and runs ???
Weight factor = 0.4 seconds
HP factor = 0.4 seconds
13.5 -.4 -.4 = 12.7 at a slippery track in the summer on OEM tires. It should take a 2.3 60' to hit this target.
I was using my "Ghetto Race-o-Meter" and determined that a typical driver driving at 100% should knock down a 12.7. This will be my goal.
The way my Ghetto Meter works is:
Take an existing ET of a bone stock car you observe (drive). Record it's weight, HP and ET.
To calculate the target car, Subtract the weights and divide by 1000.
Subtract the HP's and divide by 100.
If the target car weighs less, subtract weight # from the observed ET, plus adds.
If the target car makes more power, subtract the HP #. Or vice versa.
This is based on my obsevation of my last car and what happened when I changed the car. I have also guessed peoples ET's pretty good with it.
Example: A Camaro SS weighs 3500 and puts out 310rwhp runs 13.5 on crappy F1's.
A Z weighs 3100, makes 350rwhp, and runs ???
Weight factor = 0.4 seconds
HP factor = 0.4 seconds
13.5 -.4 -.4 = 12.7 at a slippery track in the summer on OEM tires. It should take a 2.3 60' to hit this target.
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (McRat)
Your results may vary, not available in Hawaii or Texas...
I didn't mention the 60' factor. The example above was based on 2.3 60's which is common for M6 cars on street tires at poorly prepped tracks.
For each 0.1 you cut off your 60's, it can yield 0.15 at the far end. So a Z should run 12.1 with a 1.9 60', which is what dreams are made of.
I didn't mention the 60' factor. The example above was based on 2.3 60's which is common for M6 cars on street tires at poorly prepped tracks.
For each 0.1 you cut off your 60's, it can yield 0.15 at the far end. So a Z should run 12.1 with a 1.9 60', which is what dreams are made of.
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (McRat)
Your close with your estimates, but thare are more variables. That said I went to the track fri night with my F1's, and since I have been running on DR I needed some time to get used to them but here are the runs.time 6:31 2.04 60' 12.426, 115.73.6:58 1.972 60', 12.270 116.64. 7:23, 1.982, 12.283, 116.283.7:54,1.913, 12.596, 93.55 missed 4th and coasted.8:41 best run of night 1.873,12.074, 116.52 Last run I wanted an 11sec pass and was to agressive, 2.159, 12.513, 116.58. It's just not as easy on the stock F1's, but with practice and a preped track 1.7's are possible. Fri night is a street night at NED so the track is not as sticky as sat and sundays. Ric
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Melting Slicks
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (SpeedracerZ06)
As you know NED does not have good traction on wend &fri nights. I was sliping the clutch for the first 4-8ft, I started at 2200 the first run, the 12.074 was at 2600. Ric
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (Power Shifter)
Tom Steel: The results of the 0-60 ft. times, 1/4 mile times, and trap speeds might be a little more interesting and be of more value to everyone if they were plotted on a graph called a histogram. This will plot the process curve, and determine if the times and trap speeds fall in stastical control. I have access to a stastistical process control program at work, and on my home computer. If you would like those values plotted E-mail them to me and I will plot them on a on a histogram and return them to you.
Gary L Wells
gary-l-wells@msn.com
Gary L Wells
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Re: Z06 E.T.s (Gary Wells)
Gary,
I'm all for it, but I don't think the forum software will do histograms. If you want to do it on your software, I think that is a great idea, but unfortunately I don't have the data you are referring to in your post.
If anyone who has been to the track wants to e-mail Gary with their data, I would love to see his graphs.
I'm all for it, but I don't think the forum software will do histograms. If you want to do it on your software, I think that is a great idea, but unfortunately I don't have the data you are referring to in your post.
If anyone who has been to the track wants to e-mail Gary with their data, I would love to see his graphs.