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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ffas23
Lately there is some talk? You got to be kidding me. Does someone have a X-Ray machine to look inside of Purolator Filters on Bob is the Oil Guy site? Sorry I have to take that comment with a grain of salt.
There was a time (30 yrs ago) when Fram filters caused the early destruction of some engines due to this same problem. The filter element would fail where the pleat was perforated over a hole letting unfiltered oil pass thru. They used cheaper paper and later reenforced the element to prevent this from reoccurring. This info was passed on to me via a WIX rep.



FYI I should also point out it was determined that moisture in the oil was the cause of element failure.

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love these oil and oil filter threads.

What makes me curious though is of all the issues Corvettes have and have had, people still buy them and WILL defend them to the death.

But yet get all tit pinched when someone starts talking about oil filters.

Things that make me ask, why!
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Things that make me ask, why!
Why?
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
Why?
I'm just curious why people are so intent on telling people what filter and oil to use.

Personally I use Royal purple some, and Mobile 1 mostly, and wix filters mostly, twice K&N.

I used Fram for years in my other cars and never had an issue. Of course who knows if I was hurting my car or not. I'm not saying I wasn't. But most people who go to those quick lube places get the cheapest filters they make put on their car and never blink an eye.

But say one thing about a Fram on a vette and they get absolutely hateful.
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i have been using mobil 1 oil and Napa gold filters, no issues so far. but i am researching that PurePower lifetime oil filter, the thing is expensive though. they claim it filters better and outflows conventional oil filters, looks promising.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
FYI I should also point out it was determined that moisture in the oil was the cause of element failure.
I would think that an engine with enough moisture in the oil to make the filter element fail has issues that a better filter won't solve.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
I'm just curious why people are so intent on telling people what filter and oil to use.

Personally I use Royal purple some, and Mobile 1 mostly, and wix filters mostly, twice K&N.

I used Fram for years in my other cars and never had an issue. Of course who knows if I was hurting my car or not. I'm not saying I wasn't. But most people who go to those quick lube places get the cheapest filters they make put on their car and never blink an eye.

But say one thing about a Fram on a vette and they get absolutely hateful.
Some people make EVERYTHING way too complicated. There have been some threads about how much higher the rear should be from the front in order the change oil or what torque to use on the drain plug.
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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
I'm just curious why people are so intent on telling people what filter and oil to use.

But say one thing about a Fram on a vette and they get absolutely hateful.
OK. Good point.
Ya gotta admit it does make for some brilliant debates when spring rolls around.

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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
I would think that an engine with enough moisture in the oil to make the filter element fail has issues that a better filter won't solve.
Exactly what I was thinking !
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Not really.
Moisture will not pass thru the paper like oil.
Instead it stops on the paper and the oil pushes it through causing small tears.
The oil can then pass making the hole larger.
Doesn't take much to tear the paper under 40-60 PSI.
Especially when pressing against a 0.020-40" hole.
From that point forward unfiltered oil is being recirculated.
Then over time engine damage is the result.

Lots of moisture collects in engines in humid and cold states.
As a resident of Detroit I remember wiping off the oil/water mud under the filler cap.
Thats more than enough moisture to reek havoc in a filter.
Especially if the change intervals are exceeded.


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I have some Mobil 1's, some k&n and a couple discontinued AC Delco UPF44. I picked them up at a discount at the action site. They are all very good filters.
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