Title transfer issue.....sucks
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Drifting
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From: Erie PA
Title transfer issue.....sucks
So I bought my z06 last fall and just put it away for the winter. Today I went to get the title transferred so I can drive it and the notary said they can't do it because it's a repossessed vehicle. Wtf?
Evidently the dealer (Chicago) bought it at auction (South Carolina) and I bought it from the dealer. I have an affidavit showing the Lien holder ,Wells Fargo, sold it to the dealership and the title in hand with bill of sale. The notary says that pa does not accept repossessed titles from out of state and the dealer needs to put it in their name and then transfer it to me. The dealer is giving me ***** because I didn't tell them sooner and said I had it transfer it within 30days (they already reported it to their dmv As being sold to me) ....... I'm going to try a different notary this week. Seems I have all the paperwork needed and it was a legit sale.......hoping I don't have a $20k paper weight
The fact that it was a repo was never mentioned.
Anyone have any experience with this?
Evidently the dealer (Chicago) bought it at auction (South Carolina) and I bought it from the dealer. I have an affidavit showing the Lien holder ,Wells Fargo, sold it to the dealership and the title in hand with bill of sale. The notary says that pa does not accept repossessed titles from out of state and the dealer needs to put it in their name and then transfer it to me. The dealer is giving me ***** because I didn't tell them sooner and said I had it transfer it within 30days (they already reported it to their dmv As being sold to me) ....... I'm going to try a different notary this week. Seems I have all the paperwork needed and it was a legit sale.......hoping I don't have a $20k paper weight
The fact that it was a repo was never mentioned.
Anyone have any experience with this?
Racer
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From: Duryea Pa.
Hi; I live in pa. Why dont you try a title and tag transfer place where you get everything done on site your registration and plates are issued right there.. Around here we have a northeast title and tag place that does that.. they are hooked up direct with the dmv. Also all the title transfer and notary fees just got increased . Thanks to our governor corbett... good luck
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Burning Brakes
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They may give you some grief but yeah deal with the dealers title clerks. We in fl are supposed to register a customers car in 30 days as well. However there are exceptions. pa won't really care they just want paid. If the dealer won't work with you contact DMV in Chicago directly and nicely explain the circumstances. I'm sure the dealer just doesn't want to catch a bunch of grief. Just be nice and I'm sure in the end they'll take care of It. At least until it's time to not be nice. DMV will be none too pleased if they refuse to take care of it.
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Hi; I live in pa. Why dont you try a title and tag transfer place where you get everything done on site your registration and plates are issued right there.. Around here we have a northeast title and tag place that does that.. they are hooked up direct with the dmv. Also all the title transfer and notary fees just got increased . Thanks to our governor corbett... good luck
Going to try another place today.
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See what another notary says, but I can see the dealer's side too - it's not their fault you waited so long to title the car. Good luck - hope it all works out for you without too much hassle.
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From: Erie PA
Other notaries say same thing. Doesn't matter how long I wait, the dealer still has to put a dealer title on it so it is CLEAN to transfer to pa. The state requires the dealer or bank to fix it.
I have to over night it back to the dealer, the need to get a title, then overnight it back to me. Supposedly Illinois has a quick process for dealers ...... We'll see
Beautiful dAy and it's in the driveway ...........
I have to over night it back to the dealer, the need to get a title, then overnight it back to me. Supposedly Illinois has a quick process for dealers ...... We'll see
Beautiful dAy and it's in the driveway ...........
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There is nothing wrong with selling a repo car, there is a lot wrong with them not standing behind the title issues.
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Everything I've read here indicates they did everything by the (Illinois) book. There is zero evidence that they wouldn't have handled any title issues at the time of sale, or for that matter, won't handle them now. The only thing that's making this a big deal is that OP sat on the paperwork for six months, and is now whining because he can't drive his non-titled car this weekend: that's not their fault, it's his.
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Everything I've read here indicates they did everything by the (Illinois) book. There is zero evidence that they wouldn't have handled any title issues at the time of sale, or for that matter, won't handle them now. The only thing that's making this a big deal is that OP sat on the paperwork for six months, and is now whining because he can't drive his non-titled car this weekend: that's not their fault, it's his.
What was the OP trying to accomplish by NOT doing the paper work when the car was purchased? Save on insurance? I sure wouldn't have wanted to store a car with no coverage on it. The dealer may end up charging a fee to do additional paper work to get it straightened out.
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Repossession will not stop title work as long as the lien holder has released the lien. You are getting quite the run around there. I am a licensed IL dealer and just last month sold my sister a new to her car as a PA resident. I had a title in a private party's name transferred to a new car dealer. This dealer took the car to a dealer auction who then made my dealer the legal owner at time of purchase. I then transferred to my sister a PA resident who took the title in to get plates. She had no issues. She lives in the Westchester area. Not sure if she went local there or her husband did the paperwork in Philly near his work. I have never had issues with repo titles. The dealer in IL did nothing wrong per IL law and PA should recognize that. Some states still require notary. If I sell to a resident of one of these states they have to accept the title as IL would transfer. Are you using a third party title location? A true state run location may treat this different.
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Repossession will not stop title work as long as the lien holder has released the lien. You are getting quite the run around there. I am a licensed IL dealer and just last month sold my sister a new to her car as a PA resident. I had a title in a private party's name transferred to a new car dealer. This dealer took the car to a dealer auction who then made my dealer the legal owner at time of purchase. I then transferred to my sister a PA resident who took the title in to get plates. She had no issues. She lives in the Westchester area. Not sure if she went local there or her husband did the paperwork in Philly near his work. I have never had issues with repo titles. The dealer in IL did nothing wrong per IL law and PA should recognize that. Some states still require notary. If I sell to a resident of one of these states they have to accept the title as IL would transfer. Are you using a third party title location? A true state run location may treat this different.
It will get fixed and SHOULDN'T take too long..........
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