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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 02:49 AM
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Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas. Phenomenal all-around tire in every performance category. Excellent pricing too, very reasonable, non-runflat.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vettestream
I have Michelin Pilot Super sports, really nice tire, but pricey, also my car is not a daily driver.
Originally Posted by olbear1962
Another fan for the Michelin Pilot Super Sports,..........
Michelin PSS.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Not necessarily. Drive a runflat for more than thirty miles and it's structural integrity is usually shot. Can never really trust it again. Then you have to try to find a replacement and a place that can mount it. So instead of a 5 dollar can of sealant you have to spend 400 bucks on a new tire. Talk about a headache. Runflats are not the answer. The cost is not worth it. Not to mention the horrible ride.
The extra weight is only a few pounds. Not a big deal.
Good luck on the side of the road trying to fix a flat, how about the aaa driver that comes to tow your car, no thanks. Bottom line non run flats for me safety issue. Have you ever had a run flat on your car that you talk about the ride, your in a sports car not a BMW.

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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 07:06 AM
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It is not often the best is also the least expensive. In this case it is.
Vredestein, without doubt.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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After taking my run flats off I'll never run them again. Noisy, hard...no thanks.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by racebum
do these come in stock sizes now?
I just put a set of the Pilot RFs (non A/S) on my car a couple of weeks ago, and yes, they come in the stock sizes.




Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
Good luck on the side of the road trying to fix a flat, how about the aaa driver that comes to tow your car, no thanks. Bottom line non run flats for me safety issue. Have you ever had a run flat on your car that you talk about the ride, your in a sports car not a BMW.



I've had a couple of flats, over the years, and simply changing a tire with an OE jack and lug wrench, on the side of the road, can be a MAJOR safety issue as well as a PITA. I cannot imagine trying to plug a tire. I'll stick with the RFs.....

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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
Good luck on the side of the road trying to fix a flat, how about the aaa driver that comes to tow your car, no thanks. Bottom line non run flats for me safety issue. Have you ever had a run flat on your car that you talk about the ride, your in a sports car not a BMW.
I have ridden in a Vette with runflats and I would not want to drive any distance with them. I have also fixed several flats on the side of the road and it really is no big deal. Maybe for women, but I had no problem at all.
Corvettes are touring cars, too.

You drive any distance on a deflated runflat you most likely will have to replace the tire. That's a good thing in your opinion?

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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
I just put a set of the Pilot RFs (non A/S) on my car a couple of weeks ago, and yes, they come in the stock sizes.









I've had a couple of flats, over the years, and simply changing a tire with an OE jack and lug wrench, on the side of the road, can be a MAJOR safety issue as well as a PITA. I cannot imagine trying to plug a tire. I'll stick with the RFs.....
That's the time you use a can a of tire inflator/sealer to get to a service center to get a patch instead of replacing the runflat.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 09:59 AM
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Safe to say the guys driving on run flats don't go to the track. So don't bother arguing with them. Their vettes are for driving to the corner ice cream parlor. On that note, I've been running the Goodyear f1 D3s in non stock sizes for last 6 years. Due to age vs treadwear, I'm now swapping them out for some Conti Extreme DW. Was going to get the Michelin SS, but they don't make a 295/35/18 for rears.

I keep a slime repair kit in the trunk.

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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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[QUOTE=racebum;1586750325]1 year isn't uncommon at all. most tires are produced overseas, then shipped here, then distributed making your 1/14 date extremely quick

6mo old is the average for a high volume dealer like tire rack or discount

my local discount is really good about checking dates when i buy and making sure they are under 1yr old, always buy local when you can guys, support your community.

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Originally Posted by JR-01
That's the time you use a can a of tire inflator/sealer to get to a service center to get a patch instead of replacing the runflat.
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Safe to say the guys driving on run flats don't go to the track. So don't bother arguing with them. Their vettes are for driving to the corner ice cream parlor.

It really amazes me, how so simplistic some of you guys are. For example, the last time I got a flat tire on the road, I happened to be in my wife's car, which at the time, was a '93 Caprice LTZ. The car in front of me kicked up a piece of metal, or something, and it ricocheted off his tire, into the concrete guard rail, and back into my path.

I saw it coming, twitched the steering wheel, missed it with the front tire, but got it with the rear. This piece of s**t cut a 4" long gash in the sidewall of the tire, completely blowing out the tire.

OK, it wasn't my Corvette, but nonetheless, that kind of crap can happen in daily driving, and a Corvette doesn't have a spare tire. (Thankfully, the Caprice did) Are you going to fix a destroyed sidewall with a can of "fix a flat"??? Oh, yeah, I was on my way to work, too, and needed to be there "on time", so calling the AAA in the morning commute hours, and waiting until they manage to show up isn't all that practical either.


NO, I don't track the car, so I don't need that last 1-2% of the car's potential performance. And secondly, if you blow out a tire at the track, you're at most 2-3 miles to the pits, where you can slap on a new tire. Out cruising, you could be MILES from any kind of help.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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I guess the hot shots on here set me straight. Sorry I have a different opinion then you do.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
It really amazes me, how so simplistic some of you guys are. For example, the last time I got a flat tire on the road, I happened to be in my wife's car, which at the time, was a '93 Caprice LTZ. The car in front of me kicked up a piece of metal, or something, and it ricocheted off his tire, into the concrete guard rail, and back into my path.

I saw it coming, twitched the steering wheel, missed it with the front tire, but got it with the rear. This piece of s**t cut a 4" long gash in the sidewall of the tire, completely blowing out the tire.

OK, it wasn't my Corvette, but nonetheless, that kind of crap can happen in daily driving, and a Corvette doesn't have a spare tire. (Thankfully, the Caprice did) Are you going to fix a destroyed sidewall with a can of "fix a flat"??? Oh, yeah, I was on my way to work, too, and needed to be there "on time", so calling the AAA in the morning commute hours, and waiting until they manage to show up isn't all that practical either.


NO, I don't track the car, so I don't need that last 1-2% of the car's potential performance. And secondly, if you blow out a tire at the track, you're at most 2-3 miles to the pits, where you can slap on a new tire. Out cruising, you could be MILES from any kind of help.
You aren't going to drive on a runflat that's been destroyed by a piece of metal, either. Run flats blow out just like regular tires and you can't drive on them when they do.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
You aren't going to drive on a runflat thats been destroyed by a piece of metal, either. Run flats blow out just like regular tires and you can't drive on them when they do.
But in the context of daily driving, it improves my odds.....
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Is that really possible????
You'll never know!!
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I'm done with tire discussions, I've had more than enough.............
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
I'm done with tire discussions, I've had more than enough.............
If you don't want other opinions, you might as well be done.
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If you don't want other opinions, you might as well be done.
Is that supposed to be funny??
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Is that supposed to be funny??
No. Just stating fact.
I am going to replace my tires and after hearing all the pros and cons I am going with the non runflats. The different opinions helped me make the decision. If you only want to hear opinions just like your own, you might as well be done here.
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by troyguitar
Sumitomo HTR ZIII is the best cheap tire, Michelin PSS is the best overall tire. IMO there's not much point buying anything other than one of those two unless you're buying track/autox tires.
I ran these on my Z28 and was happy with the performance for the price but was very unhappy with the ride quality and impact harshness.

I switched to Bridgestone RE760s and the ride quality, wet traction, and noise level have all greatly improved along with better performance.

Im gonna stick with the 760s I think they are a good DD performance tire.
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