Your point being?

 

I have a bottle of the AIO that I've used a few times on my Z06 and DDs. I also have some Blackfire Wet Diamond that I've been using more often. The BWD looks pretty close to the Zaino but seems to last longer on DD-type applications. I did half of the hood of my truck with Zaino AIO and half with BWD and the BWD was cleaner and shinier longer. I do like the Zaino Clear-Seal on top of any polish that I use though.


http://www.autogeek.net/blackfire-we...d-sealant.html

 

Try the Z2. I've used the Z-AIO and wasn't too impressed with it.

 

Maybe when I work through these two bottles of AIO and BWD. You use so little to do the job that the bottles last for years.

 

His point was exactly that "Carnauba is 93 % optically clear and has little UV protection causing the clear coat to yellow".

 

Hey E-T, I see in your pic only Z-2 - is that all you use?
Be interested in your "system"...

I've done 2-3 coats Z2,of course each coat followed by Z-6, than another 2-3 coats of Z-5,again with each coat followed by Z-6, then finish of with Z-CS....

Maybe I'm overdoing it?

Thanks....

 

wow, I thought I made it simple.. why would anyone want to put a product that is yellow on their clear ( "CLEAR" ) coat. When 99% optically clear is available, why would you want to use a 93 % optically clear product on your car? Seems pretty simple.. and a bit disappointing that you can't grasp the simple difference: 93% clear or 99 % clear ( yellow or clear )?
if you cant choose which is better in the two choices presented, its very sad. I consider myself to be fairly smart , but even an dummy would choose 99% clear over 93 % clear, and choose clear over yellow when looking for the best optical clarity. We already know that a polymer based product ( like Zaino ) last 3 time longer than an organic ( like a Carnauba product ). And you still ask the question " what is your point "

 

Yes that's all I use, Ive been using it since 1999. I will also clay once or twice a year, I use only clear water from the hose and a 230 MPH blower to dry it off. I do have the luxury of time, and I don't allow the car to get dirty. the water is just to remove any silica that might sit on the horizontal surfaces. I do also use Zaino gloss enhancer.
In 1999 I could only get about 3 full car applications from an 8 oz Bottle of Z 2, but now after refining my technique, I can get 9 to 10 applications. My cars finish looks so good because the layers of protection only make the surface deeper and wetter looking. I don't Zaino my car for the protection , I Zaino for therapy, its fun, it gives me satisfaction, its easy to use , and furthers the compliments I get daily when I go somewhere. Making a 16 year old car appear to be brand new, can be a very exhilarating experience, when people keep saying it. My car's finish looks as good as a new finish because the effects of the sun, its UV rays and airborne contaminants have never been able to penetrate the Zaino protection, or dull the clear coat or effect the color coat underneath.
my technique is simple, at least for me. When I ready for a therapy session ( Zainoing my car ). I simple hose the car down with water from the hose, and blow dry it. I usually start at the drivers side front fender, but I do change it up sometimes. ( the starting point ). A put a few micro fiber towels in my clothes dryer and allow the dryer to remove any moisture that gets absorbed into these towels. I get comfortable.. a rolling work seat and apply a few squirts of gloss enhancer to a dry Zaino applicator to make it soft. I then squirt a little gloss enhancer on the front fender, and wipe it down, then with no surface silica on that fender I massage two or three drops ( on the fender ) no more... this insures that I'm not using too much... I put the Zaino on the fender not the applicator. I then move to the door. A little gloss enhancer and a wipe down, then a few drops of Zaino on the door and massage it in. between the fender and the door this takes about five minutes, tops. Now I go an get a few warm and dry take off towels, and buff off the fender ( only ). leaving the drivers door to flash off. I then go to the driver side rear quarter, gloss enhance it and wipe, them a few drops of Zaino massages in.. then go to the door and remove and buff it with a dry and warm towel. I then throw them back in the dryer, and proceed to the rear fascia, or roof or hatch. ( its my choice.)( gloss it and wipe and apply the Zaino. I do one of these sections while the rear quarter is drying. then get a warm dry towel and buff the quarter. and so on, this procedure take less than 30 minutes. When done, I wipe the car down with gloss enhancer. and I'm ready to be bombarded with compliments. when I put my car away, I wipe it down, including the wheels with gloss enhancer, a few squirts goes a long way.it takes less than five minutes to do this. Its just what I do... I don't care what others do or what other use. its their pleasure to do what they think is best for them.

 

Since the layer of wax is microscopically thin do you really think it would make a difference or is it hype?

 

Certainly can't deny the results....

 

Yes, I still ask, "what is your point" based on my statement.

As I stated, nothing shines like carnauba wax. It is known to create a rich, deep finish and is preferred by most show car owners. I guess to you, they are all "dummies" for preferring carnauba wax?

By your same logic, solid state guitar amplifiers are also much better than tube amps. My first guitar amp was solid state. It's better on paper in every way. In the real world though, the tube amp is preferred because it is more pleasing to the ears just like carnauba wax is more pleasing to the eyes.

If 99% is better, why would the product I use have this in the description?

Yes, it says rivals, as in still not as good, but close.

As I originally stated, and I stand by it, sealants are the way to go; however, if you want just a little more pop before a meet or a show, put a layer of carnauba wax on top. It'll add just a little bit more to make your car even more special. After it melts off or is washed off, you still have your 99% optically clear polymer to protect your paint. It really is the best of both worlds.

 

the Gold Class and NXT are somewhat dated.. the Ultimate Polish/ Ultimate Wax are where it's at.

 

you want to talk guitar amps..? solid state is cheaper and less trouble some but there is no better sound response than that attained through filament modulation. That's why I have a Phase Linear amplifier.
ON the other hand why would I want to view anything though a dirty window one that is only93 % clear when I could view the image through a 99 % clear window. Carnauba Is Yellow. its a know fact that because the wax breaks down in a few weeks you need to reapply it in a few weeks. So its yellow Not as clear and its protection last weeks instead of months. and you are still arguing that you cant see the point.
and for the other guy. the color coated surface below the clear coat is protected from UV rays bt the protection applied to the clear coat where a molecular bond is established between the clear coast and the protectant , nothing ever touches the actual color coat of the finish.

rather then getting further involved in this folly, IM backing off. Anyone can do what they want. I've presented enough in your face facts for the members here to make their own choice in a car finish care system
A little more pop?
why would I put a dirty window, Carnauba wax ( 93 % optically clear) over a clean window Zaino ( 99% optically clear )? its counter productive.

16 years Old, 100,000 miles

 

I have a little Trace Elliot class A tube amp that is as simple as it comes yet produces beautiful tone even though, sound reproduction wise, it would be considered "dirty" and "not clear" sound reproduction by scientists.

As far as your argument against carnauba, it's known to produce a deep, rich finish to the paint. I guess some people prefer looking through a "dirty window" for that very reason. I am not stating to use it as your only protection. I'm only stating that many people, especially car enthusiasts, prefer it to the cheap plastic look given off by some of the protection systems that are out there.

In the end, I agree. People can use whatever they want. As long as they are using good methods and not inflicting damage to their paint, more power to them. There are numerous car care systems out there and it all comes down to personal preference. I will still argue though, that a nice wax as a "topper" to a sealant based system, is hard to beat for the "wow" factor, even if a scientist in a lab tries to tell you it's not 100% perfect.

 

 

 

I absolutely agree with the last paragraph of your post.
I would put the finish on my Tbird up against anything I have seen posted in this thread, and I use good ole turtle wax, and not those specialty product that most pay through the nose for.
They don't appear to be any better than what I have been using for years.
This coming week end the Corvette gets the clay and wax treatment.
I will post a picture after it is finished.
I will stick with the turtle wax as it is proven to give remarkable results.
Bob.

 

Toque, your Z is sexy!

 

Thanks RDY !

Toque

 

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