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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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CONVENTION CENTER PARKING ENFORCEMENT??? Sounds like a money maker for the Convention Center.
Exactly! Parking lot robbery.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 01:24 PM
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You have a good point, however I just didn't want to waste one more minute of my life with this. Not worth the $45.00.
I hear ya. Time is money. It's just worth more to some than others.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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I would have at least challenged the authority of some "parking enforcement" agency to issue a citation for a non-parking issue such as no front plate. But that's just me.
The LA Convention Center is on city property and under the control of the LAPD City Parking Enforcement. California Vehicle Code 40202 gives the cities in California authorization to enforce parking and vehicle equipment violations on city property only. CVC 5200: (No front license plate displayed.), is a correctable violation and can be dismissed with proof of correction.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 08:29 PM
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The LA Convention Center is on city property and under the control of the LAPD City Parking Enforcement. California Vehicle Code 40202 gives the cities in California authorization to enforce parking and vehicle equipment violations on city property only. CVC 5200: (No front license plate displayed.), is a correctable violation and can be dismissed with proof of correction.
Thanks for pointing that out, Merlin. Good job!
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Getting ticketed once in 125K miles - I'd say your luck has been pretty good.
Yeah, I agree. But that wasn't my point. It was the fact that I didn't get the ticket while operating the car, but rather while it was just sitting there.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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I hear ya. Time is money. It's just worth more to some than others.
It's not that I just want to throw money away, believe me! I live out in Corona, about 40-50 miles from the Convention Center, and probably just as far, if not further from anywhere I'd have to go to take care of this. I could see this growing into a time consuming mission if I decided to start something. A I said, I just mailed in the $45 and got on with my life. Maybe I'm just too lazy. Thanks, everyone.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Hmm, been pulled over once in TX for no front plates. Cop: "sir do you no why I pulled you over?" Me: "no sir..." Cop: "no front license plate. Did you know you are required to have one?" Me: "no, no I did not" Cop: "make sure you fix that, I'm giving you a warning. Have a good day"

Still haven't fixed it...
If you get pulled over again and the cop decides to check your priors you're going to get one hell of a ticket.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Yeah, I agree. But that wasn't my point. It was the fact that I didn't get the ticket while operating the car, but rather while it was just sitting there.
Government at all levels grabs revenue any way they can.
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Originally Posted by luckstr
It's not that I just want to throw money away, believe me! I live out in Corona, about 40-50 miles from the Convention Center, and probably just as far, if not further from anywhere I'd have to go to take care of this. I could see this growing into a time consuming mission if I decided to start something. A I said, I just mailed in the $45 and got on with my life. Maybe I'm just too lazy. Thanks, everyone.
Understood, and according to what Merlin found, the "parking enforcement" agency has the authority to cite you for no front plate. Oh well, they'll get you one way or another.
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CONVENTION CENTER PARKING ENFORCEMENT??? Sounds like a money maker for the Convention Center.
Originally Posted by thisMSGgood4me
Government at all levels grabs revenue any way they can.

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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
If you get pulled over again and the cop decides to check your priors you're going to get one hell of a ticket.
Why would it be "one hell of a ticket?" It should only be a normal citation. Just because he got a previous warning doesn't escalate the citation to a higher level. He just won't get a second warning.
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Originally Posted by thisMSGgood4me
Why would it be "one hell of a ticket?" It should only be a normal citation. Just because he got a previous warning doesn't escalate the citation to a higher level. He just won't get a second warning.
For failing to make the correction; anything and everything the LEO can find he will write up for, at least most of those I've known would after someone had already been warned once. That's why I have a front plate now, and it's a good thing too because the last time I was pulled over the LEO made a point to walk to the front of my car to make sure I had a plate.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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For failing to make the correction; anything and everything the LEO can find he will write up for, at least most of those I've known would after someone had already been warned once. That's why I have a front plate now, and it's a good thing too because the last time I was pulled over the LEO made a point to walk to the front of my car to make sure I had a plate.
Sorry to disagree with you, Ed, but just because someone has been issued a prior warning and is caught with the same violation a second time does NOT escalate said second incident to a higher level than simply a normal citation. There's no such thing as citing someone for "failing to make the correction." The violator simply gets no warning the second time but instead is cited for the violation, and that's it.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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$45 in 125,000 miles is damm good...I would have done the same...pay it and forget it.

I have not used a front plate in WA since 2011. I have driven 20,000+ miles in that time and have been only pulled over once and he did not check. For me I would have to have the hide away because I am running a T/S bumper
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Any cover on the plate is illegal in California. The key is " must not be obscured" , which you would think makes a clear cover ok, but no.

I was once pulled over for having basket wire headlight covers on an old Triumph tr4. It was a fix it ticket, which I think is still in play ,because I saw a guy get a ticket signed off by an officer a couple of months ago while sightseeing down by the airport.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by thisMSGgood4me
Sorry to disagree with you, Ed, but just because someone has been issued a prior warning and is caught with the same violation a second time does NOT escalate said second incident to a higher level than simply a normal citation. There's no such thing as citing someone for "failing to make the correction." The violator simply gets no warning the second time but instead is cited for the violation, and that's it.
I didn't say you'd be cited for failing to make the correction. I said the failure to make the correction would make the cop look for even more things to write you up for than he or she normally would. I also said I KNOW LEO's who do this, so you can deny it all you want, I've had it from the horse's mouth.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
I didn't say you'd be cited for failing to make the correction. I said the failure to make the correction would make the cop look for even more things to write you up for than he or she normally would. I also said I KNOW LEO's who do this, so you can deny it all you want, I've had it from the horse's mouth.
That's EXACTLY what you said, Ed. You started out your previous post with the following six words...

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For failing to make the correction
...when I asked...

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Why would it be "one hell of a ticket?"
Furthermore, a cop can't write up more violations against someone than those that actually exist. (Well, at least they're not supposed to, but then again I guess they could fabricate violations, although that would be illegal and unethical, but then who said all cops are ethical and do only legal things? It seems you must KNOW a few who aren't and don't.)

The point is, Ed, that cops can do three things when pulling someone over for a non-moving violation, for example, no front plate here in TX. They can (a) write a citation, (b) issue a written warning, which is on the record, or (c) give a verbal warning, which is off the record. In the case of (b), if a violator is stopped a second time for the same offense as was given for the written warning, then the violator deserves to be written a citation. But that doesn't warrant a cop to go overboard with his citation book. The violator was given some leniency and warned the first time, didn't fix the violation, was caught again with the same violation, and deserves to be ticketed on the second stop for the violation that wasn't fixed. That's how it's supposed to work, Ed. The fact that you KNOW some cops who go overboard tells me I don't want to be driving in the neck of the woods your cop friends patrol. Who knows what kind of crap they might try to get away with?
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Yeah, I agree. But that wasn't my point. It was the fact that I didn't get the ticket while operating the car, but rather while it was just sitting there.
The Meter Maids in San Francisco tag you for no front plate while you're parked anywhere in the City. Another money maker.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 11:44 PM
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When I first got my car here in Colorado, Every cop in town (small mountain town) pulled me over almost dayly for whatever you can think. Most of the time it ended with "and by the way, how much did you have to drink tonight?" This is called "fishing" around here. I was given the most ridiculous reason for being pulled over. From a crystal clear license cover (to keep it clean) to merging straight into the left lane (when I needed to make an immediate left turn on the next street). The dumbest thing in all this is that I don't have a front license plate, altho Colorado requires one. Yet they were sucking stupid reasons out of their finger tips, but not once mentioned the lack of front plate. None of these stops resulted in tickets, but it was annoying none the less…….and funny in a way. The one thing they had a legitimate reason to pull me over for, they never used. Oh, well….
Now that know me (everyone knows everyone here) they don't mess with me anymore. Even with blacked out lenses, limo tint all around and no front plate.
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 02:28 AM
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I just put the plate on, it is the law so I say suck it up or pay if you get caught and don't bitch. you can't go around picking the laws you want to obey, you wouldn't want a cop to ticket you just because they think vettes are ugly and useless would you??? do the crime, pay the fine.....my 2 cents.
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