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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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What brake pads are you guys running? Recently picked up some Baer Eradispeed 2pc rotors and would like some ideas, experience w diff pads.. Leaning towards the GM ceramics.... Car is ran in 1/2 mi events and fun spirited weekend driving.. low dust NO squeal is what I am trying to achieve.. along with great braking of course... Thanks in advance.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 10:30 AM
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The Hawk Ceramics are low dust, and will do what you want, but once they have been really cooked they will start to deposit a red dust and when cold will give a light squeal on first app.

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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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This won't be what you want to hear but those eradispeeds are nothing but for aesthetics.. Don't ever take them on a road track because at high temps the hats turn bronze in color permanently.. For fronts I've been running cheap solid rotors that weigh exactly the same as eradispeeds and actually stop better. I'm running ceramic pads.

The rear eradispeeds are OK.. They are in fact a bit lighter than stock and with the one piece design you're not risking the hats discoloring.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 11:24 AM
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I'm running Hawk HPS pads on Powerslot slotted rotors. Noticeably more dust than OEM pads, but much better bite too. If dust is a primary concern, you won't want these. Hawk has a ceramic pad too, which is supposed to dust a lot less, but I have never used them.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteZ06
This won't be what you want to hear but those eradispeeds are nothing but for aesthetics.. Don't ever take them on a road track because at high temps the hats turn bronze in color permanently.. For fronts I've been running cheap solid rotors that weigh exactly the same as eradispeeds and actually stop better. I'm running ceramic pads.

The rear eradispeeds are OK.. They are in fact a bit lighter than stock and with the one piece design you're not risking the hats discoloring.

I agree.
Those Eradispeeds sure are pretty but not good for track day events, especially with ceramics.

With those Eradispeeds, I'd go with the GM ceramics for street & occasional 1/4 mile track slow downs.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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The Carbotech 1521 pad is what you should invest in. This pad is rotor friendlily, quiet, 100% non corrosive dust and good to 800 degrees. Take a look below. If interested I will be happy to help you.

Carbotech™ Bobcat 1521™ The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non-corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.

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I have hawk ceramic 1 piece pads on my c6z brakes and they are decent for my driving style, I haven't had problems slowing down from 150+... if you have ever been to the 1/4 mile track in ennis I could slow down and take the first exit after the finish trapping 130+ if I wanted or needed to... they are lower dust than the stock c5z pads but they do dust, so plan to keep cleaning your wheels as usual... as stated above, occasionally there is a light squeal if you lightly hit the brakes to slow down for a light
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 04:05 PM
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I run the Hawk ceramics on stock C5Z rotors. A lot less dust on the body, but still some on the wheels. I also get the same minor squeak on initial brake application.
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 09:53 AM
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I recommend Stoptech "Street Performance" pads. They stop well when cold, yet are rated for 1300 degrees F for track usage. These are not a full "race" pad. I use them for street and low brake usage tracks like MSR Cresson, but I would recommend full race pads for Eagles Canyon, or Road America.
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 63Corvette
I recommend Stoptech "Street Performance" pads. They stop well when cold, yet are rated for 1300 degrees F for track usage. These are not a full "race" pad. I use them for street and low brake usage tracks like MSR Cresson, but I would recommend full race pads for Eagles Canyon, or Road America.
I would agree with this for an all around pad as well.

No way no how would I run a dustless/noiseless/ceramic pad for one of those runway events.

Maybe run something like that as a daily driver pad, but if you want to do stuff like the roll race events, you need something that can stop the car safely and do it a few times without cooking the pads and brakes on the car.
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I have in fact been to Ennis... I usually have to take the second turn... lol...





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I have hawk ceramic 1 piece pads on my c6z brakes and they are decent for my driving style, I haven't had problems slowing down from 150+... if you have ever been to the 1/4 mile track in ennis I could slow down and take the first exit after the finish trapping 130+ if I wanted or needed to... they are lower dust than the stock c5z pads but they do dust, so plan to keep cleaning your wheels as usual... as stated above, occasionally there is a light squeal if you lightly hit the brakes to slow down for a light
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Pete, that is not what I wanted to hear... with as much as these cost I would think that they would perform well too...?
I don't race my car all of the time... Maybe 2-3 times per year other than spirited driving on the big highways...

I am leaning towards the Stop Tech's or the Carbotech 1521's... Not skimping on HP/TQ.. My brakes should be no different... Thank you to EVERYONE for their input... I appreciate it...

I'll come see you this week Anthony.... I know you'll hook me up if I decide to go the StopTech route...


Originally Posted by PeteZ06
This won't be what you want to hear but those eradispeeds are nothing but for aesthetics.. Don't ever take them on a road track because at high temps the hats turn bronze in color permanently.. For fronts I've been running cheap solid rotors that weigh exactly the same as eradispeeds and actually stop better. I'm running ceramic pads.

The rear eradispeeds are OK.. They are in fact a bit lighter than stock and with the one piece design you're not risking the hats discoloring.
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 0H1Z06
Pete, that is not what I wanted to hear... with as much as these cost I would think that they would perform well too...?
I don't race my car all of the time... Maybe 2-3 times per year other than spirited driving on the big highways...

I am leaning towards the Stop Tech's or the Carbotech 1521's... Not skimping on HP/TQ.. My brakes should be no different... Thank you to EVERYONE for their input... I appreciate it...

I'll come see you this week Anthony.... I know you'll hook me up if I decide to go the StopTech route...
I forgot to mention that they are CHEAP too
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Originally Posted by PeteZ06
For fronts I've been running cheap solid rotors that weigh exactly the same as eradispeeds and actually stop better. I'm running ceramic pads.
Which rotors and pads are you running?
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rjwz28
Which rotors and pads are you running?
Hawk pads..

Rotors I really cannot remember where I picked them up but I think on ebay.
I made sure I bedded them properly and they have been performing great.
Eradispeed rear rotors for now.
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I went with the StopTech's...
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Let us know how you like those pads. I have a set sitting around that I'm going to throw on when my stockers run out.
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Oh I will..... I have not even driven the car since installing the rotors/pads...

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Let us know how you like those pads. I have a set sitting around that I'm going to throw on when my stockers run out.
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I have run Carbotech pads for the track for years on my former 2004 silver Z and they are really just fine for the street if you cannot change back right away. They need a few pedal pushes to warm up, but if you remember to do that they are fine on the street and they are relatively low dust and non-corrosive. Much easier to live with than, say, Hawk pads.

I ran XP12 fronts and XP10 rears and they were excellent for HPDE track use (when running cooling ducts and Motul fluid).

I have never tried them in truly cold weather, however. I would suggest in below 40 degree weather they might take several solid stops to bite.

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I run parts store ceramic's, if you REALLY bed them in they work ok for the street.(I had mine smoking, literally, on bed in).

For you guys that have squeaky pads.....

Go buy some high temp anti-seize, the copper or the purple.

Remove the pads, put a little of the anti-seize on the pad wherever it touches the caliper or abutment bracket...NOT on the face of the pad.

This will stop the squeak, if you track the car or autocross it you will have to reapply it.
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