I have a silver 2004 that has some very slight shading imperfections spots on the rear quarter panel . they can only be seen in direct sunlight. I noticed that after it is waxed it is almost unnoticeable but as time goes by they reappear.
Was hoping that the clay bar and the Z5 and Z2 might help me out. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
The zanio system has several different products while chadwicks is all in one. Chadwicks is definitely a quicker an easier system but I am looking for something to help me out with those spots on my quarter panel and provide me with a max shine. Cost and labor is not an issue as this car in not a daily driver.

Is there anyone out there that has used both the Zanio and the Chadwick system . I would be very interested in hearing your opinions on both systems.

 

 

Hard to make a truly informed response based on the info provided. Without knowing the nature/extent/severity of the "shading imperfections" it is hard to make a recommendation. It sounds like the question is, "Which product would cover-up/mask imperfections better?", when neither one is really designed to perform that function. Both are essentially optically clear.

It "sounds" like you have a panel that probably needs "re-painting", but are looking for something to cover-up the problem?

I have used all the Zaino line for years on my black C5 and have also been using Chadwicks quite a bit the past year or so off and on.

Ultimately the only real solution for you will be to correct the source of the problem, but until then, if I were faced with a temporary solution and those were my only two choices, I would probably opt for Chadwicks. The reason I say that is because it has more of a "waxed" look when cured and "may" give you some of what you are looking for (if wax has been helping so far). Zaino (even Z5) has virtually no masking effect - if the paint underneath has flaws it will do very little to diminish them.

I apply either some Zaino product (or Chadwicks when using that system) virtually every day for over 10 years (since black has to be wiped down every day in a dusty environment). I have noticed that Chadwicks has some minimal ability to temporally make minor fine scratches less noticeable, but with Zaino, if I see any surface defect, it is time to drag out the Flex and get to work on the clear coat.

 

I am the 3rd owner of the car and have had it about 10 months so it is still new to me with just over 11k miles. Was stored mostly inside but was also under a cover outside for a few months. The imperfections I was trying to explain are very minor as I said can only be seen at an angle in direct sunlight. The areas almost look like smudge marks , areas that do not have the same level of shine. Almost looks like you should be able to just take a cloth and wipe them right off.
Do not think the car has ever been detailed to the point of using high end polish like the types we are discussing and surely has not had a clay bar on it as I ran my hand over it last night and it is not smooth as glass like I hear many on the forum say.
So maybe it just needs some TLC using some high end products.
So based on your reply ,which I greatly appreciate I am leaning towards Chadwicks. When using the foam type bar in the Cadwicks system it is similar to the clay bar correct? I assume that this is the most abrasive portion of the entire process and hopefully it may remove the smudge parts. What are your thoughts on that

 

I have been using Chadwicks for about a yr as well and am very satisfied. My car is silver and hard to get a deep shine but chadwicks does better than any product I have used.

 

I just ordered the Chadwick's triple play bc I am very intrigued. How long does the shine last? How good is the protection?

 

I've used both products and am extremely happy with both. I have a black vert and I'm very picky when it comes to swirls and or spider web type marks. I use the zaino to start the year out and if im road tripping I usually use my duster and my chadwicks. I love chadwicks for how quick and easy it is and I do believe it does a fine job of filling in minor imperfections. Zaino is somewhat time consuming but I enjoy my time detailing. When on the road, chadwicks is the only thing for me. I've had really good luck with the show car polish and a polishing pad on my orbital. Hope this helps.

 

Are you inferring to the spotiness/ blotchiness in the metallic? It's an unfortunate problem with the Quicksilver cars...makes the paint job look cheap.

It seems a little better with a higher build wax; I assume for some level of light reflection/refraction this helps to hit the flakes laying a different direction.

If you have a legit dull spot on your car; it probably needs cut and buffed.

 

Hard to say how long it lasts. Chadwicks claim to fame is not to use any water, just use the product with micro fiber towels. Having said that and knowing that is how the product is supposed to be used it is obvious that one would use it more than U would a normal wax. In other words everytime the care needs cleaning it gets waxed (chadwicked) as well. It is so simple and easy and non time consumming to use it made sense to me to use it and you get a great deep buttery look and feel and it smells good enough to drink. U can use it on glass, plastic, and even on my kitchen counter tops. If U want it to shine use it. I only used the chadwick liquid and I didn't get the pad or tire shine. I used plumbers putty with a cheap quick detailer for lubricant to do the clay bar process and then came back with chadwicks. Plumbers putty will do same as clay bar if u don't have a clay bar.

 

Yes, the Chadwicks foam bar is similar to using clay. The main purpose of using these is to dislodge rail dust, brake dust, tree sap and other contaminants that get embedded in the clear coat. In all honesty, I have never used clay or the foam bar that I did not end up with micro-scratches in the clear coat afterwards no matter how careful I am. It will "feel" smooth as glass, but on my black color I can see where the process leaves scratches that I then have to mechanically buff out with an RO prior to applying sealants, etc.

If you can "feel" a difference in the surface by running your hand over the areas you mentioned, then it "may" just be something as simple as some overspray stuck to the surface. If that is the case, I would first try using clay. If that did not work, I would then have to use a Random Orbital with an actual "polish" that contains abrasives to level the clear coat.

If the surface "feels" consistent after you clay and/or polish with abrasives and the blemishes still show up, then it may very well be as suggested in Post #8 - a problem in the way the metallic paint was originally laid down (in which case you are looking at a repaint with varying degrees of success in matching/blending or try to cover-up to make it less noticeable).

Personally, I just use Zaino (or Chadwicks) as a protectant and gloss enhancer. I don't expect either of them to mask scratches or flaws in the paint itself. I make sure my paint surface is as pristine as practical using a series of mild abrasive polishes, pads and an RO unit before ever applying any final sealants (or waxes) - that is the easy part! If my paint does not look near perfect stripped down, then sealants aren't going to do much more than seal-in and sometimes enhance the flaws.

Even though my C5 has been my DD of 15 years, I am pretty **** when it comes to the paint surfaces - that is why I use different products on the paint on a daily basis to keep the paint looking better than the day it left the factory. Therefore, I cannot speak from experience as to how long any of them last as I am basically laying down a new coat of "something" nearly every night. Obviously that is not practical for most people (and if you don't have a black car, not as noticeable) - if I were just looking for "protection", I would probably reapply Zaino every 3-4 months to be safe. With Chadwicks you would be using it more often anyway just to remove dust if nothing else.

 

Cudos to you sir, I know how hard it is to keep a blk car looking that great!

 

Looks like he keeps it in his living room !!!!!!!!!!!