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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
O.P. your problem may well be your battery. I agree with earlier posts. I have the CLB and i mostly get that warning after the car has sat for awhile. Once the car is used more often no more messages.
Car is used nearly every day. It's not just the warning, the column was actually locked. Giving it some slight persuasion got it to unlock. I just want to ensure that it won't lock up again 15 hours from home.
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dbgoodwin
Car is used nearly every day. It's not just the warning, the column was actually locked. Giving it some slight persuasion got it to unlock. I just want to ensure that it won't lock up again 15 hours from home.
I understand you use it every day. I was giving you an example that a low battery can cause this. A battery can go bad even using it every day.
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dbgoodwin
excellent. just wanted to ensure that I had to unhook the battery after turning the ignition to on. seems simple enough to me!
There is a step early in the instructions for the LMC5 to remove a fuse (I believe it was no. 23 but check the instructions) prior to disconnecting the battery. Don't miss that step - please don't ask me how I know this.
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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There is an install video on Youtube for the LMC5. Good info. Just make sure to pull the relay mentioned in post #22 at the end of the installation. It's not in the video.
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Originally Posted by paldogy
A warning about Florida and a weak battery. Down here the battery usually gives no warning and just dies completely and suddenly. Don't ask me why but it's a known fact.
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 10:10 PM
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Let me share this with you dbgoodwin, the steering column can lock on you while driving the car, this is 'really' a serious issue, it happened to me. . To get straight to the point, do the LMC5 install for now, and when your back in home territory see if you can find a shop or yourself and physically have the bolt itself removed out of the column, this is the 'true fix' to this issue, I did mine and have total piece of mind when driving now !! I personally won't rely or trust mine or anyone else's safety on a electronic part for this fix alone. Others can say what they want about this and make all the claims they want that the LMC5 as being the ultimate fix, well it's 'not', remove the bolt and never worry again about a locked column. I will gladly take any heat about this issue, because I will bet that 99 % of Corvette owners have never experienced a locked column while driving on the road. I don't want this to be misread by others, I am only expressing my sincere concern about other Corvette owners safety. Jus Say'n !!
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dbgoodwin
I guess I'll post in regional forum and hope someone near NC has one they will sell me!

There isn't an option to have the compliance part overnights otherwise I would just do that. Now I'm wondering what the hell that box was zip tied to my dash..
Just bought one for a friend and it has the option of overnite for 19.00 bucks !!!!!!!!!! (which I used)
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Good luck getting the LMC5 in time and installed. And good luck on the trip.
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by akapounder
Just bought one for a friend and it has the option of overnite for 19.00 bucks !!!!!!!!!! (which I used)

I wonder why that isn't showing up for me. Either way, I have one on the way that should be here on time with any luck.
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Originally Posted by 2FAS4UU
Let me share this with you dbgoodwin, the steering column can lock on you while driving the car, this is 'really' a serious issue, it happened to me. . To get straight to the point, do the LMC5 install for now, and when your back in home territory see if you can find a shop or yourself and physically have the bolt itself removed out of the column, this is the 'true fix' to this issue, I did mine and have total piece of mind when driving now !! I personally won't rely or trust mine or anyone else's safety on a electronic part for this fix alone. Others can say what they want about this and make all the claims they want that the LMC5 as being the ultimate fix, well it's 'not', remove the bolt and never worry again about a locked column. I will gladly take any heat about this issue, because I will bet that 99 % of Corvette owners have never experienced a locked column while driving on the road. I don't want this to be misread by others, I am only expressing my sincere concern about other Corvette owners safety. Jus Say'n !!
Any write up on how to do this?
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
Any write up on how to do this?
Yes, there was a good write up by 'Paris Hilton's Dog' done on 7/30/2011 I believe (Corvette Forum), also found on Youtube. Let me clarify on my earlier post, although removing the CL pin/bolt eliminates the possible locking of the steering wheel, the LMC5 will take care of the fuel cutoff issue. Thus my statement of it not being the 'total/ultimate fix' and being reliant on a electrical component. The removal of pin/bolt requires the steering wheel to be removed to do this procedure. When this happened to my car and was trucked to a local stealership, I insisted that they do the pin/bolt removal as well, instead of just throwing in a harness that we know didn't work well. Hope this helps and a thanks to the OP's post in 2011'. Good luck guys and be safe Corvette owners !!
P.S. Corvette Forum administration, this I believe should be a permanent 'Stickey' for the C5 forum members safety, present and future !! Jus Say'n !!

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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2FAS4UU
Yes, there was a good write up by 'Paris Hilton's Dog' done on 7/30/2011 I believe (Corvette Forum), also found on Youtube. Let me clarify on my earlier post, although removing the CL pin/bolt eliminates the possible locking of the steering wheel, the LMC5 will take care of the fuel cutoff issue. Thus my statement of it not being the 'total/ultimate fix' and being reliant on a electrical component. The removal of pin/bolt requires the steering wheel to be removed to do this procedure. When this happened to my car and was trucked to a local stealership, I insisted that they do the pin/bolt removal as well, instead of just throwing in a harness that we know didn't work well. Hope this helps and a thanks to the OP's post in 05'. Good luck guys and be safe Corvette owners !!
P.S. Corvette Forum administration, this I believe should be a permanent 'Stickey' for the C5 forum members safety, present and future !! Jus Say'n !!
Yeah I follow you. I think I should be alright for the trip but I'll certainly look into it when I get back.
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Originally Posted by 2FAS4UU
Yes, there was a good write up by 'Paris Hilton's Dog' done on 7/30/2011 I believe (Corvette Forum), also found on Youtube. Let me clarify on my earlier post, although removing the CL pin/bolt eliminates the possible locking of the steering wheel, the LMC5 will take care of the fuel cutoff issue. Thus my statement of it not being the 'total/ultimate fix' and being reliant on a electrical component. The removal of pin/bolt requires the steering wheel to be removed to do this procedure. When this happened to my car and was trucked to a local stealership, I insisted that they do the pin/bolt removal as well, instead of just throwing in a harness that we know didn't work well. Hope this helps and a thanks to the OP's post in 05'. Good luck guys and be safe Corvette owners !!
P.S. Corvette Forum administration, this I believe should be a permanent 'Stickey' for the C5 forum members safety, present and future !! Jus Say'n !!
Thanks for the info. I wonder how many have done the procedure. Also how many got the steering wheel locked while driving and were around to talk about it afterward.
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
Thanks for the info. I wonder how many have done the procedure. Also how many got the steering wheel locked while driving and were around to talk about it afterward.
Scary thought Huh !!
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I'm not seeing anywhere in the instructions where it says to remove any fuses. I have everything out and the relay removed, but nothing about fuse 23 or whatever
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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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At the very beginning of the instructions there is s note about pulling the fuse to make sure the column is unlocked prior to starting. If not unlocked when you start you will have problems when you think you are complete.
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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2FAS4UU
Yes, there was a good write up by 'Paris Hilton's Dog' done on 7/30/2011 I believe (Corvette Forum), also found on Youtube. Let me clarify on my earlier post, although removing the CL pin/bolt eliminates the possible locking of the steering wheel, the LMC5 will take care of the fuel cutoff issue. Thus my statement of it not being the 'total/ultimate fix' and being reliant on a electrical component. The removal of pin/bolt requires the steering wheel to be removed to do this procedure. When this happened to my car and was trucked to a local stealership, I insisted that they do the pin/bolt removal as well, instead of just throwing in a harness that we know didn't work well. Hope this helps and a thanks to the OP's post in 2011'. Good luck guys and be safe Corvette owners !!
P.S. Corvette Forum administration, this I believe should be a permanent 'Stickey' for the C5 forum members safety, present and future !! Jus Say'n !!
When you install the LMC5, you can actually completely unhook the column lock relay. With no power to the lock solenoid, that pin won't move.
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I'm not seeing anywhere in the instructions where it says to remove any fuses. I have everything out and the relay removed, but nothing about fuse 23 or whatever
Does your steering wheel LOCK? Removing fuse 23 is for the case where your steering wheel LOCKS or IF your NOT sure that it LOCKS or NOT... if it doesn't LOCK then removing fuse 23 step doesn't have to be done.

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Originally Posted by 2FAS4UU
Let me share this with you dbgoodwin, the steering column can lock on you while driving the car, this is 'really' a serious issue, it happened to me. . To get straight to the point, do the LMC5 install for now, and when your back in home territory see if you can find a shop or yourself and physically have the bolt itself removed out of the column, this is the 'true fix' to this issue, I did mine and have total piece of mind when driving now !! I personally won't rely or trust mine or anyone else's safety on a electronic part for this fix alone. Others can say what they want about this and make all the claims they want that the LMC5 as being the ultimate fix, well it's 'not', remove the bolt and never worry again about a locked column. I will gladly take any heat about this issue, because I will bet that 99 % of Corvette owners have never experienced a locked column while driving on the road. I don't want this to be misread by others, I am only expressing my sincere concern about other Corvette owners safety. Jus Say'n !!
Do you have any evidence to back up the statement about the LMC5 NOT being the ultimate fix... Number of failures, proof of LMC5 failing etc? So far I have never heard of or seen on the forum where the LMC5 has failed...
Did you have an LMC5 installed correctly when yours locked?
There are thousands of C5 owners putting their confidence in the LMC5 module to keep the column lock issue from ever happening to them...not just because of the inconvenience, but to possibly save lives! And now your saying it's NOT fool proof... that's a pretty huge statement. I'm not saying your RIGHT or your WRONG I'm just saying that what you are suggesting is a MOUTH full....

This is ONE of many times I would LOVE to see what 8vette7, dadaroo, and Bill Curlee has to say about your claim. That the LMC5 is NOT the ultimate fix for column lock...

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I have read here , from knowledgeable people , that the lock will not throw while the car is in motion.

I would tend to agree since the run circuit is not the starting circuit where the pin-motor lives, but the cars are getting old and strange things can always happen. Still, with the tremendous liability exposure , I believe the engineers addressed this concern carefully, and I won't be fishing out my lock motor until I hear from more than one guy who had this situation fixed at a dealer.

I am not disputing the previous posters experience, and I recognize his sincere contribution in helping others, like me, with his information. I'm just not tearing into my column without more indications of need. But then, I did just go for the shake the crap out of my column to get the pin to work properly for a good while before I bought the simulator circuit.
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