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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Help!!!!I have a 2003 corvette and recently I start having problems with my starting system. When I start my car, it would immediately shut off. I would start it on the second time, then it will then startup. Sometimes, it may take 2 to 3 tries. Other times, it fires right up. Baffling......I don't know where to go with this and I need some help from anyone who may have or is experiencing the same problem. The car runs very good with no surging or hesitation. Before I start replacing parts, I need help with this one.
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 08:36 AM
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Could be a number of things. How long do you leave the ignition in ON before you go to START? The fuel rail may be draining off pressure and fuel and if you don't allow enough time for the pump to prime the system you can have the problem you describe.

You should always tell us what year your car is.

Have you pulled your DIC trouble codes using the onboard ability?
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 02:45 PM
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Could be a number of things. How long do you leave the ignition in ON before you go to START? The fuel rail may be draining off pressure and fuel and if you don't allow enough time for the pump to prime the system you can have the problem you describe.

You should always tell us what year your car is.

Have you pulled your DIC trouble codes using the onboard ability?
Thanks for your response Dadaroo. My car is a 2003 corvette convertible. When I turn the ignition switch on, I normally does not wait to start the car until lately. I would turn the key just to hear the pump prime and then I would start it up. I'm not sure if I'm dealing with a fuel problem or a electrical/hardware problem. I heard from a few corvette owners that It can also be a passkey issue. What do you or anyone think of this possibility. I did pull the DIC codes and there were none. I drove the car yesterday and car drove like a charm but still had the occasional shut off at start. Very sporadic events.
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Does it shut off before you start to drive, or is it after you move a few feet?
(could be a 5mph shut down)

Try your backup key too.
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 04:03 PM
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Does it shut off before you start to drive, or is it after you move a few feet?
(could be a 5mph shut down)

Try your backup key too.
No. Crank it up and right after start, it shuts down. Crank up on the next try and it starts. Tried the backup key and same results. I am planning on getting another key cut ASAP.
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Let the fuel pump prime for at least 5-10 seconds before you try to start the car. See if that helps or not.
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How come I can put my key in and turn it immediately and my car (2000 A4) starts in 1/2 second? I don't have to wait for any fuel pump to prime my system.
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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No. Crank it up and right after start, it shuts down. Crank up on the next try and it starts. Tried the backup key and same results. I am planning on getting another key cut ASAP.
This sounds like a fuel problem of some sort.

I'm thinking the fuel pressure is too low, maybe doe to a clogged filter.
If the fuel system is working correctly and you drive the car even semi regularly it should easily start with out waiting on the fuel pump. I'm thinking filter or a leak in the fuel system that allows it to 'bleed' down.
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Originally Posted by Phanni
This sounds like a fuel problem of some sort.

I'm thinking the fuel pressure is too low, maybe doe to a clogged filter.
If the fuel system is working correctly and you drive the car even semi regularly it should easily start with out waiting on the fuel pump. I'm thinking filter or a leak in the fuel system that allows it to 'bleed' down.
This. Mine does the same thing and I have just learned to live with it. If the first turn of the key doesn't start it right away, I just wait a couple seconds and hit it again and it starts right up. Had 2 shops tell me separately it's something in the fuel system allowing the pressure to drop. Both said something about a "check valve" or something like that in the tank or fuel line.
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This. Mine does the same thing and I have just learned to live with it. If the first turn of the key doesn't start it right away, I just wait a couple seconds and hit it again and it starts right up. Had 2 shops tell me separately it's something in the fuel system allowing the pressure to drop. Both said something about a "check valve" or something like that in the tank or fuel line.
Today I went to the dealership to re-cut another key but i'm not sold on the idea that it is the key, but the tech at the dealership checked my key with some type of key analyzer, and determined that one of my keys were registering zero and the other register 3. He said that the key that register zero was an aftermarket key and should not use it anymore but for opening doors. I started using the other to start the car but same result. Question is: do I have to reset or clear anything in order to see a chance? What about the fuel filter! does the built in regulator could have anything to do with this problem?
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Originally Posted by mrlmd
How come I can put my key in and turn it immediately and my car (2000 A4) starts in 1/2 second? I don't have to wait for any fuel pump to prime my system.
Because you DON'T have a problem.
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cvette-eran
Today I went to the dealership to re-cut another key but i'm not sold on the idea that it is the key, but the tech at the dealership checked my key with some type of key analyzer, and determined that one of my keys were registering zero and the other register 3. He said that the key that register zero was an aftermarket key and should not use it anymore but for opening doors. I started using the other to start the car but same result. Question is: do I have to reset or clear anything in order to see a chance? What about the fuel filter! does the built in regulator could have anything to do with this problem?
Your key concern was a red herring. If the key resistance is correct for the BCM it does not matter who made it.

Anyway, I think your issue is the fuel rail is leaking pressure down between use, I think the check valve is the issue. If it was a clogged filter I would expect the engine to have issues when running.

You have a 2003. They changed the fuel system design in mid year to a new design. In the new design the check valve is in the tank not outside. Also the pump and sensors are moved to the top of the tanks.

If the pump and sensors are located at the bottom of the tanks you have the early design.

If you have the new design (FFS) and you can let it prime and it starts fine I would live with it. You can replace the earlier design check valve if you want to.

To confirm if you have leak down you need to put a pressure gauge on the line and monitor it. Easy to do at the engine and you can probably do a free rental from an auto store.

That I what you need to do or have done next.

Let us know what you want to do.
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mrlmd
How come I can put my key in and turn it immediately and my car (2000 A4) starts in 1/2 second? I don't have to wait for any fuel pump to prime my system.
U don't have to wait but it is a good idea, it gives the fuel system and computer systems a few seconds to fire up so to speak.
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I have a 2004 A4 , A few years ago I was having a similar problem , If I remember right there is a relay in the fuse box in the engine compartment for the fuel system (fuel pump ) it was the same as relay for backup lights (also in the same fuse box ). I switched relays and had no further problems. I then bought new relay and switched back relays and installed new relay. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Borntorun04
I have a 2004 A4 , A few years ago I was having a similar problem , If I remember right there is a relay in the fuse box in the engine compartment for the fuel system (fuel pump ) it was the same as relay for backup lights (also in the same fuse box ). I switched relays and had no further problems. I then bought new relay and switched back relays and installed new relay. Hope this helps.
So I purchased a replacement key from the dealership and after trying it, I thought I had the answer to my problem. It started up fine for about 4-5 good starts but would still occasionally have to fire it up again.

dadaroo, I will consider what you said about the fuel rail possibilities, but Borntorun04 suggestion about the relays, I will first take a look at that possibility. Thanks guys and keep those troubleshooting ideas coming because I know others will benefit from it.
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