Which bloCk should i go for?
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Which bloCk should i go for?
Hello, iam abdulrahman, arab name cuz iam arab from the middle east, new here, bought my c5 two days ago. I bought it cheap because the guy said ut beed a new enigne, when i took it to the mechanic to see whats wrong. He found out that there was a hole in the block as if a rat has bitten his way through the block.
Anyway, i bought this car to learn, i wanna learn tunning and stuff.
So the engine ls1 is gone, and since it need a new engine, i am not sure if i want another ls1 or idk maybe lq9 or ls2 or anything els. For the future i am planning to go 800+ whp. But thats for the far future. What do you guys think, consider power, weight and block.
Sorry for the long post.
Anyway, i bought this car to learn, i wanna learn tunning and stuff.
So the engine ls1 is gone, and since it need a new engine, i am not sure if i want another ls1 or idk maybe lq9 or ls2 or anything els. For the future i am planning to go 800+ whp. But thats for the far future. What do you guys think, consider power, weight and block.
Sorry for the long post.
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When you say 800+ whp that leave a lot to question?? are you planning on doing it naturally or forced induction? that will greatly determine how you build the block...I would go with a LS3 with a ECS or A&A kit and call it a day...but how deep are your pocket's for the project...
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When you say 800+ whp that leave a lot to question?? are you planning on doing it naturally or forced induction? that will greatly determine how you build the block...I would go with a LS3 with a ECS or A&A kit and call it a day...but how deep are your pocket's for the project...
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Anyway, any ideas? Consider that iam learning to tune, so i dont wanna buy an expensive engine yet.
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I would consider an LS3 over the LS1, as it has more speed parts available. However, my first choice would be a crate engine at the power level I was seeking.
Good luck seeking knowledge.
MY skill set is very low, and, more regrettably, hard won. Talk to as many people as possible, and it is who is doing the work, not the cost of the job that is important.
Unlike, say a buying a sandwich, where a twenty dollars sandwich is reasonably expected to have advantages over a three dollar one. With this stuff, the guy with the three dollar goods soon finds that people are buying sandwiches for twenty and raises his prices. After all, car repair is all the same, why leave money on the table?
I have a cousin who waited years before his guy could work on a special car's interior. He got a good job with no added problems. Which is always a concern. with old stuff, a low quality repair often creates other damage, when the correct repair is not well understood. Then you have two new problems . It happens.
Good luck seeking knowledge.
MY skill set is very low, and, more regrettably, hard won. Talk to as many people as possible, and it is who is doing the work, not the cost of the job that is important.
Unlike, say a buying a sandwich, where a twenty dollars sandwich is reasonably expected to have advantages over a three dollar one. With this stuff, the guy with the three dollar goods soon finds that people are buying sandwiches for twenty and raises his prices. After all, car repair is all the same, why leave money on the table?
I have a cousin who waited years before his guy could work on a special car's interior. He got a good job with no added problems. Which is always a concern. with old stuff, a low quality repair often creates other damage, when the correct repair is not well understood. Then you have two new problems . It happens.
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Basic premise is to remember there is no replacement for cubic inches. So get the LS3 or even better, the LS7 if you can afford it. The LS7 can be expensive. You'll find it easier to hit your high HP goals if you start the the bigger blocks. No matter which way you go, LS1,2,3,7 or even the LQ9 or LQ4, I'd used forged rods and pistons, along with ARP bolts. The stock crank on all of these are probably good to 800hp. I'd invest in some ARP head studs, then start your mods (heads, cam, etc) . With a good start, you can then add some nitrous or FI when its convenient. Hope that helps.
A lot depends on your budget. You can go from low to high. An LSX might be considered the top of the line while the LS1 might be the low end. Even saying that, you can still get to 800HP with any of them as long as the supporting work is done.
A lot depends on your budget. You can go from low to high. An LSX might be considered the top of the line while the LS1 might be the low end. Even saying that, you can still get to 800HP with any of them as long as the supporting work is done.
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Yet iT doesnt seem like expensive. I bought the car w/o engine, but really cheap, it have ZR1 rims and thats exactly half the amount of total price. And if i put an ls1 back into it i can easily sell it and get $1k+ in my pocket.
Anyway, any ideas? Consider that iam learning to tune, so i dont wanna buy an expensive engine yet.
Anyway, any ideas? Consider that iam learning to tune, so i dont wanna buy an expensive engine yet.
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I would consider an LS3 over the LS1, as it has more speed parts available. However, my first choice would be a crate engine at the power level I was seeking.
Good luck seeking knowledge.
MY skill set is very low, and, more regrettably, hard won. Talk to as many people as possible, and it is who is doing the work, not the cost of the job that is important.
Unlike, say a buying a sandwich, where a twenty dollars sandwich is reasonably expected to have advantages over a three dollar one. With this stuff, the guy with the three dollar goods soon finds that people are buying sandwiches for twenty and raises his prices. After all, car repair is all the same, why leave money on the table?
I have a cousin who waited years before his guy could work on a special car's interior. He got a good job with no added problems. Which is always a concern. with old stuff, a low quality repair often creates other damage, when the correct repair is not well understood. Then you have two new problems . It happens.
Good luck seeking knowledge.
MY skill set is very low, and, more regrettably, hard won. Talk to as many people as possible, and it is who is doing the work, not the cost of the job that is important.
Unlike, say a buying a sandwich, where a twenty dollars sandwich is reasonably expected to have advantages over a three dollar one. With this stuff, the guy with the three dollar goods soon finds that people are buying sandwiches for twenty and raises his prices. After all, car repair is all the same, why leave money on the table?
I have a cousin who waited years before his guy could work on a special car's interior. He got a good job with no added problems. Which is always a concern. with old stuff, a low quality repair often creates other damage, when the correct repair is not well understood. Then you have two new problems . It happens.
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Basic premise is to remember there is no replacement for cubic inches. So get the LS3 or even better, the LS7 if you can afford it. The LS7 can be expensive. You'll find it easier to hit your high HP goals if you start the the bigger blocks. No matter which way you go, LS1,2,3,7 or even the LQ9 or LQ4, I'd used forged rods and pistons, along with ARP bolts. The stock crank on all of these are probably good to 800hp. I'd invest in some ARP head studs, then start your mods (heads, cam, etc) . With a good start, you can then add some nitrous or FI when its convenient. Hope that helps.
A lot depends on your budget. You can go from low to high. An LSX might be considered the top of the line while the LS1 might be the low end. Even saying that, you can still get to 800HP with any of them as long as the supporting work is done.
A lot depends on your budget. You can go from low to high. An LSX might be considered the top of the line while the LS1 might be the low end. Even saying that, you can still get to 800HP with any of them as long as the supporting work is done.
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Used one, crate ones are expensive. About the budget, i dont have a fixed one, as i Said iam planning on adding each month. I will try to find an ls3 out of a camaro or something.
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I read up on the blocks was looking for something and ran across it ,was talking about building big power in a new Camaro was saying the Camaro block did not have the reinforcement the Corvette block had and would not hold up the power they were going to up in the motor I can't remember seams like it might had been 700-800--Hp and said the Camaro was a little sachety after 5-600 Hp.. But like you did not know the blocks were different ,they pointed out the differences and was suppressed at now much better the Corvette was ..What I got out of the deal was the Corvette was WAY better block for big HP..