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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
He went from left lane to middle lane, back to left lane and then back to middle lane in 10 seconds. That's normal driving to you?
If I saw someone driving like that I would keep my distance since he was an accident waiting to happen.
Didn't say it was normal. In the situation I cited and as stated "not far from normal". Pretty hard to "keep your distance" in Bay Area commute traffic. All I'm saying is the way he was driving 10 minutes before the accident, doesn't prove that what appeared to be erratic driving was the cause of it. Sound reasonable?
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 01:04 PM
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'Douchebags to me are those who think they are driving in Europe and the left lane is reserved for slower traffic.'

Europeans respect left lane for passing rule.
Americans don't.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 01:19 PM
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This is called witch hunting/burning... get on the band wagon!
That video held no evidence of a douche bag driver, but people just feel better agreeing he crashed because he r st00pid.

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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 02:05 PM
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he wouldn't have to weave in and out if people used the lanes correctly. Get out of the left lane!!! People that sit in the left lane are the DB's
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by amlarson2001
he wouldn't have to weave in and out if people used the lanes correctly. Get out of the left lane!!! People that sit in the left lane are the DB's
When traffic is heavy like this the left lane is full. Those in that lane are going as fast as they can since there are cars in front of them, yet the Corvette driver runs up on them expecting the entire line to move over so he can have the left lane to himself. Driving like he did in heavy traffic is idiotic and an accident waiting to happen.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 02:49 PM
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every think maybe he was in and out of lanes cause an emergency? like his kid, wife or family member was injured or a wife was having a baby? "or" maybe he ran into one of those drivers that think they own the road and tried to slow him down or even cut him off call me crazy one this one what if a mommy putting on makeup while on the phone done something that made him wreck?

could have been any thing but most of you just yup his a $#@^& with out known facts?
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 02:54 PM
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every think maybe he was in and out of lanes cause an emergency? like his kid, wife or family member was injured or a wife was having a baby? "or" maybe he ran into one of those drivers that think they own the road and tried to slow him down or even cut him off call me crazy one this one what if a mommy putting on makeup while on the phone done something that made him wreck?

could have been any thing but most of you just yup his a $#@^& with out known facts?
Welcome to America where the facts don't matter. Grab your pitch fork and a torch.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroker87
every think maybe he was in and out of lanes cause an emergency? like his kid, wife or family member was injured or a wife was having a baby? "or" maybe he ran into one of those drivers that think they own the road and tried to slow him down or even cut him off call me crazy one this one what if a mommy putting on makeup while on the phone done something that made him wreck?

could have been any thing but most of you just yup his a $#@^& with out known facts?
LOL. Of course it wasn't his fault. Everyone should have gotten out of his way.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Macleod52
Welcome to America where the facts don't matter. Grab your pitch fork and a torch.
The video speaks for itself. He was driving carelessly in traffic. His wife having a baby or not.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
The video speaks for itself. He was driving carelessly in traffic. His wife having a baby or not.
You are jumping to conclusions. We do not see what caused the wreck. You are making an assumption based on what little facts we have. You assume his "careless" driving is what caused the accident.

Was he speeding? We don't know. We can't tell by the video. It sure doesn't look like he was being a ***** and quickly coming up to that first cars ***. It looks like he was going the same speed.

Did he swerve in and out a couple times? Sure. Who hasn't? Is he the sole douche bag because of this? This is all we have to go off of. So ASSUMING he was speeding and not trying to get around other douche bags who were driving in the PASSING lane then you can say he was being kind of a douche. The other drivers could be douche bags just the same if they were driving in the passing lane at speed or below the limit but you want to single this guy out. You are jumping on this guys case just because you assume he's speeding and swerving in and out of traffic and is the only person to blame.

You also ASSUME that after he got around these cars that he continued to swerve in and out of traffic. That is an educated assumption but an assumption nonetheless. Beyond the few seconds we see him pass a few cars we have no evidence as to what caused the accident. For all we know he was in the right lane going the speed limit when a Semi's tire came apart and caused him to swerve and hit a light post.

My point is you, and many others, are jumping to conclusions and wanting to hang this guy out to dry based on video that was taken minutes before the accident. This mentality applies to the the way us Americans act and view things nowadays. It's no longer innocent until proven guilty. It's guilty beyond reasonable doubt because this is what I think happened.

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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Macleod52
You are jumping to conclusions. We do not see what caused the wreck. You are making an assumption based on what little facts we have. You assume his "careless" driving is what caused the accident.

Was he speeding? We don't know. We can't tell by the video. It sure doesn't look like he was being a ***** and quickly coming up to that first cars ***. It looks like he was going the same speed.

Did he swerve in and out a couple times? Sure. Who hasn't? Is he the sole douche bag because of this? This is all we have to go off of. So ASSUMING he was speeding and not trying to get around other douche bags who were driving in the PASSING lane then you can say he was being kind of a douche. The other drivers could be douche bags just the same if they were driving in the passing lane at speed or below the limit but you want to single this guy out. You are jumping on this guys case just because you assume he's speeding and swerving in and out of traffic and is the only person to blame.

You also ASSUME that after he got around these cars that he continued to swerve in and out of traffic. That is an educated assumption but an assumption nonetheless. Beyond the few seconds we see him pass a few cars we have no evidence as to what caused the accident. For all we know he was in the right lane going the speed limit when a Semi's tire came apart and caused him to swerve and hit a light post.

My point is you, and many others, are jumping to conclusions and wanting to hang this guy out to dry based on video that was taken minutes before the accident. This mentality applies to the the way us Americans act and view things nowadays. It's no longer innocent until proven guilty. It's guilty beyond reasonable doubt because this is what I think happened.
He was driving carelessly in traffic. He was overly aggressive. Its on the video. Not jumping to conclusions, just my conclusion from watching the video. Did you watch the video?
If he was driving a Honda would you still be defending his driving?
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
He was driving carelessly in traffic. He was overly aggressive. Its on the video. Not jumping to conclusions, just my conclusion from watching the video. Did you watch the video?
If he was driving a Honda would you still be defending his driving?
I'm not defending his driving. I don't have all the facts. He did make illegal lane changes, that much can be said. Beyond that you ARE jumping to conclusions. Were you there when he wrecked? Did you see what caused the accident? I watched the video and sure didn't see that. Maybe you have a different video that shows beyond reasonable doubt that his careless driving, in fact, caused the accident?

Until I see that video it is speculation. It may be the right speculation but we can't say for certain as none of us were there.

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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Macleod52
I'm not defending his driving. I don't have all the facts. He did make illegal lane changes, that much can be said. Beyond that you ARE jumping to conclusions. Were you there when he wrecked? Did you see what caused the accident? I watched the video and sure didn't see that. Maybe you have a different video that shows beyond reasonable doubt that his careless driving, in fact, caused the accident?

Until I see that video it is speculation. It may be the right speculation but we don't can't say for certain as none of us were there.
If someone drives like that in traffic bad things happen. More than likely he caused the accident or had a big part in it. Did you see anyone else in the video driving aggressively? Everyone else was staying in their lane going with the flow. The Vette driver was driving carelessly and he was in an accident. Logic says he probably had a part in causing it. Some folks seem to think everyone in the left lane should have pulled over and let him have it to himself.

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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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Hands down. He was an *******. Glad he wasn't killed. What a loss.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 12:15 AM
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everybody has been an ******* at one time or another in a car and in other ways. if you didn't see accident happen you don't know what happen, maybe an a-hole on the phone hit him?? bottom line is glad whoever he is was not killed and another vette bites the dust.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 12:50 AM
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How the hell is this even a debate? He was clearly trying to cut around cars in the video and ends up in a guardrail.

I think it's a pretty safe assumption to say this was his bad.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bikeriderga
Douchebags to me are those who think they are driving in Europe and the left lane is reserved for slower traffic.
Don't try thinking the left lane is the slow one on the Autobahn or you'll get run over or a big fat ticket.
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I see guys driving 'like that' all the time, but not in Corvettes.

I think i"m more worried about 'the soccer moms' late for an appointment at the local walmart.

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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1driver
everybody has been an ******* at one time or another in a car and in other ways. if you didn't see accident happen you don't know what happen, maybe an a-hole on the phone hit him?? bottom line is glad whoever he is was not killed and another vette bites the dust.
You see a video with one guy driving recklessly and everyone else going with the flow. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the reckless driver probably caused the accident. That is what they do.

A few years back a guy passed me like I was standing still. I thought to myself he is going to wreck. Miles up the road he missed a corner and was in the ditch. I can safely assume it was his fault. Same with this incident.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
You see a video with one guy driving recklessly and everyone else going with the flow. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the reckless driver probably caused the accident. That is what they do.

A few years back a guy passed me like I was standing still. I thought to myself he is going to wreck. Miles up the road he missed a corner and was in the ditch. I can safely assume it was his fault. Same with this incident.
Your Honor we respectfully thank and dismiss potential juror JR-01.
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