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Old Dec 14, 2015 | 11:47 PM
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I have found that my high beams are just fine in stock configuration, but the low beams are woefully inadequate. I should get the radioflyer set-up but I am hesitant to because I am not sure that I want to invest that much in my "starter" Vette with 145k miles. I am sure I will go that route in my next Vette, which will almost certainly be a very low mileage car.

Therefore, I am looking for a cheap fix for now. I saw that one of the forum vendors has a product that replaces the stock fog lights with higher powered ones that supposedly provided more illumination than the pop-up low beams.

Is that plausible? Are there other inexpensive avenues to better lighting?
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Old Dec 15, 2015 | 02:23 AM
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Silverstars perhaps? That is what I am planning on putting in mine.
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Old Dec 15, 2015 | 05:47 AM
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The ACA copies from the big auction site are not bad. You can always have radioflyer mod them later.
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Old Dec 15, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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You have many options before you have to open up your wallet.
Sylvania silver stars, 9005 mod has great results and very cheap,
A set of HID's will be a little more money but well worth it.
Go thru the above options (investigate) and see what meets your needs.

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Old Dec 15, 2015 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Crussader
I have found that my high beams are just fine in stock configuration, but the low beams are woefully inadequate. I should get the radioflyer set-up but I am hesitant to because I am not sure that I want to invest that much in my "starter" Vette with 145k miles. I am sure I will go that route in my next Vette, which will almost certainly be a very low mileage car.

Therefore, I am looking for a cheap fix for now. I saw that one of the forum vendors has a product that replaces the stock fog lights with higher powered ones that supposedly provided more illumination than the pop-up low beams.

Is that plausible? Are there other inexpensive avenues to better lighting?
One nice thing about the Radioflyer Bi-xenon HID package is that you don't have to make any permanent modifications to the car to install them. If, at some point, you decide to move to another C5, you can simply swap the stock headlamp assemblies back in and move the HID sets to the newer car.

I have these lights in my C5 and they are a tremendous improvement even though the high beam lights are still a halogen (SilverStar) bulb. Some C5's came from the factory with badly molded lamp housings. On my car, the high beams were aimed a good 4 feet higher than the low beams when the low beams were properly aligned. The Radioflyer housings are molded properly so there is no alignment issues. My RF units also came with a Hi-4 harness that allows both high and low beams to be on at the same time.
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Old Dec 15, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
One nice thing about the Radioflyer Bi-xenon HID package is that you don't have to make any permanent modifications to the car to install them. If, at some point, you decide to move to another C5, you can simply swap the stock headlamp assemblies back in and move the HID sets to the newer car.

I have these lights in my C5 and they are a tremendous improvement even though the high beam lights are still a halogen (SilverStar) bulb. Some C5's came from the factory with badly molded lamp housings. On my car, the high beams were aimed a good 4 feet higher than the low beams when the low beams were properly aligned. The Radioflyer housings are molded properly so there is no alignment issues. My RF units also came with a Hi-4 harness that allows both high and low beams to be on at the same time.
A very good point. Many people keep stock parts when they do a swap for just that reason.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Crussader
I have found that my high beams are just fine in stock configuration, but the low beams are woefully inadequate. I should get the radioflyer set-up but I am hesitant to because I am not sure that I want to invest that much in my "starter" Vette with 145k miles. I am sure I will go that route in my next Vette, which will almost certainly be a very low mileage car.

Therefore, I am looking for a cheap fix for now. I saw that one of the forum vendors has a product that replaces the stock fog lights with higher powered ones that supposedly provided more illumination than the pop-up low beams.

Is that plausible? Are there other inexpensive avenues to better lighting?
So as most have said, you have a number of options in the “cheap” category. You can do the 9005 high beam bulb conversion to run in the low beam lens. You can run Silver Star bulbs or HIR bulbs. You can run HID in the stock lenses but they are really designed for a reflector bulb and while they will certainly put out more light it is not correctly directed and scattered.
Running higher wattage fog lamp bulbs, or even better HID bulbs as the fog lights are projector lenses. However it is not advised to run your fogs as replacements for your low beams. They are not located in the optimal spot and have little adjustment. It may not be even legal to do so. They can be used to augment your low beams.
Finally, as said you can invest in quality projector headlights like Radioflyer and always move them to your next vette when ready.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Nicely summarized.

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.. However it is not advised to run your fogs as replacements for your low beams....
I was thinking this might be my best compromise, but I can see that it is not the solution. I am thinking I might try the converted 905 to see if that gets me enough. I don't supposed anybody out there is selling them in converted form?
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Originally Posted by Crussader
Nicely summarized.



I was thinking this might be my best compromise, but I can see that it is not the solution. I am thinking I might try the converted 905 to see if that gets me enough. I don't supposed anybody out there is selling them in converted form?
Here's a rough overview of headlight upgrades based on several years in the business...and also a a hobbyist.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...at-doesnt.html
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
Here's a rough overview of headlight upgrades based on several years in the business...
I understand the analysis. And yes, I know your headlights are the best as acknowledged in my original post. However, that doesn't help with my current situation. I can't justify a $1000 investment in parts and installation for headlights on a high mileage car that I only paid 9K for.

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Originally Posted by Crussader
I understand the analysis. And yes, I know your headlights are the best as acknowledged in my original post. However, that doesn't help with my current situation. I can't justify a $1000 investment in parts and installation for headlights on a high mileage car that I only paid 9K for.
How about $650 on something you can carry over to your new C5 when you get it:

http://shop.radioflyerinnovations.co...lights-015.htm
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 12:47 AM
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Maybe I should save up a little more and get some Sun Guns.
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 02:51 AM
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The sun guns look the best BY FAR. I love the way the look. However, I just have a 55w HID kit in car with nothing else changed, can be had for $35.. and it increased light output significantly (2-3x stock) to a clean white light and doesn't blind other drivers as some sellers lead you to believe. I worked in auto parts in the past and watched somebody put in every type of halogen in a row (the 9 dollar ones to the 70 dollar sylvania ones) and they all look basically the same(bad). For that 70 dollars you could get two HID conversions done. Save your hard earned money and don't spend 1k on a 35 dollar fix.
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06 Zephyr
... I just have a 55w HID kit in car with nothing else changed, can be had for $35..
Where can I find this kit that you used?
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DDM on the net sells good HID kits with a good warranty (lifetime on the ballasts) better that stock bulbs for sure not the best way to go but way better than stock bulbs!
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 09:39 PM
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Thanks for the tip. I looked up the DDM kit and it seems like it has real possibilities for my situation. It's raised a ton of questions for me, though.

1 - 35 or 55 watt? Pros and cons of each?
2 - Bulb type? There are too many options with no explanation of the differences that I can find. As long as I'm in there I might as well do both Hi and Lo right?
3 - Bulb color? Is there a recommended choice for my application? (I don't care what the color looks like visually. I want the best illumination for driving)
4 - What harness do I need?
5 - Do I need the Error Eliminator?
6 - Adapter cables? From what I could find on the website it looks like I need these.

7 - Are these legal?


I will be researching these issues on my own, but it would certainly help to have input from someone who has been there.

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Thanks for the tip. I looked up the DDM kit and it seems like it has real possibilities for my situation. It's raised a ton of questions for me, though.

1 - 35 or 55 watt? Pros and cons of each?
2 - Bulb type? There are too many options with no explanation of the differences that I can find. As long as I'm in there I might as well do both Hi and Lo right?
3 - Bulb color? Is there a recommended choice for my application? (I don't care what the color looks like visually. I want the best illumination for driving)
4 - What harness do I need?
5 - Do I need the Error Eliminator?
6 - Adapter cables? From what I could find on the website it looks like I need these.

7 - Are these legal?


I will be researching these issues on my own, but it would certainly help to have input from someone who has been there.
5000 K = pure white light
55 watt = more lumens
Wasnt hard to hook up on my V-Rod
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My RadioFlyer ACA conversion is so awesome. The cat's meow. The dog's bark. The cow's moo.
They are fantastic. I could have scrood around trying to find a cheaper way to get better headlights. After all the reading I did my conclusion was there is no free lunch in this area. I could have tried to put my own package together using some Morimoto parts etc. and might have saved $100. Might have saved nothing.
Unbelievable improvement.
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