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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 10:15 AM
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The instructions to my battery tender say to connect the negative
lead to the frame. Why can't I just connect it to the negative battery
post since it is negative ground? Thanks for your input.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Probably would help if we knew what Tender you had. But if that's what the instructions say then that's what I would do. On the other hand....I take my battery out of the car when its on the tender. So it probably doesn't matter. A ground is a ground. Just unhook it and put it on.
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I "assume" you have the Battery Tender Plus. If not, I'd suggest you get one of those.

I believe that it's a CYA move on their part. It stems back to using jumper cables and having batteries explode (very rarely) when a spark happened while connecting or disconnecting the cables from the battery terminals. Fumes from a lead-acid battery are explosive if in a concentrated area.

If I'm wrong, I'm positive I'll be corrected.

Personally, I hook my negative up to the alternator bracket but I know quite a few folks who just attach 'em to the front terminals.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by calvins
I "assume" you have the Battery Tender Plus. If not, I'd suggest you get one of those.

I believe that it's a CYA move on their part. It stems back to using jumper cables and having batteries explode (very rarely) when a spark happened while connecting or disconnecting the cables from the battery terminals. Fumes from a lead-acid battery are explosive if in a concentrated area.

If I'm wrong, I'm positive I'll be corrected.

Personally, I hook my negative up to the alternator bracket but I know quite a few folks who just attach 'em to the front terminals.
The battery tender is a deltran junior. Hooking to the alternator
bracket sounds easy enough. Thanks
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I use a Deltran Battery Tender Plus and have done so for 6+ years on my current car. I hook the clips to the positive and negative battery terminals on the front of the battery and have had no problems.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
I use a Deltran Battery Tender Plus and have done so for 6+ years on my current car. I hook the clips to the positive and negative battery terminals on the front of the battery and have had no problems.
Thanks VETTEMAN, You the man!
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Are you guys putting these on with the cables hooked up?
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 01:00 PM
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Are you guys putting these on with the cables hooked up?
Yes, been doing that to my cars for over ten years and never a problem.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
I use a Deltran Battery Tender Plus and have done so for 6+ years on my current car. I hook the clips to the positive and negative battery terminals on the front of the battery and have had no problems.


When I lived in the Northeast I always attached the clips of my Deltran Battery Tender Plus to the positive and negative battery terminals on the front of my battery and never had a problem. Detach the hood light and leave the hood open for ventilation as a precaution, I always kept my hood slightly open. If you have a sealed AGM battery you do not need to worry about explosive fumes anyway.
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If the "Junior" didn't come with a harness that has ring terminals, you can get then from their website. I use the ring terminal harness on my '02. I attached the positive terminal to the "B+" stud that is just outside the underhood fuse box and the ground terminal is attached to a good ground (you can use the ground stud on the frame rail next to the battery). I did have to lengthen that wire to get it to reach.

The connector end should be long enough for it to reach just beyond the hood seal at the passenger side corner of the hood. The ring terminal harness includes a waterproof cover that is used when the Tender is not hooked up.

I back my '02 into the garage and I have the tender plugged into a ceiling outlet used for the garage door opener. The cable on the tender side is more than long enough to reach the connector that's on the car. All I have to do when I back in and want to attach the tender is to connect the two cables.
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Originally Posted by Johnny wangwang
Are you guys putting these on with the cables hooked up?
The instructions state you can do it in or out
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Originally Posted by calvins
I "assume" you have the Battery Tender Plus. If not, I'd suggest you get one of those.

I believe that it's a CYA move on their part. It stems back to using jumper cables and having batteries explode (very rarely) when a spark happened while connecting or disconnecting the cables from the battery terminals. Fumes from a lead-acid battery are explosive if in a concentrated area.
It stems from a standardized, and long-standing, safety precaution. The practice is not nearly as necessary these days what with the widespread usage of non-flooded cell (i.e. AGM) batteries, but still a good habit to follow overall.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
I use a Deltran Battery Tender Plus and have done so for 6+ years on my current car. I hook the clips to the positive and negative battery terminals on the front of the battery and have had no problems.
Same here but for many more years.

when a spark happened while connecting or disconnecting the cables from the battery terminals
Never ever had a spark from hooking up a battery tender, I only plug it in after it's hooked up to the battery.
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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
Never ever had a spark from hooking up a battery tender, I only plug it in after it's hooked up to the battery.
Same here, I only plug it in after it's hooked up to the battery.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
It stems from a standardized, and long-standing, safety precaution. The practice is not nearly as necessary these days what with the widespread usage of non-flooded cell (i.e. AGM) batteries, but still a good habit to follow overall.
Kinda like Russian Roulette, it only takes one time to ruin your day. Why chance it when the alternative is so simple.
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I have a Deltran 800 battery tender, the one with the weatherproof case, that the previous owner mounted permanently, in my 99 vert. He installed it with ring terminals directly to both battery posts. So far, no sign of overcharging or battery acid spillage.

Jim

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