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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 07:11 PM
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I drove mine for about three years with bolts being lowered. After changing to coil overs has given a much better ride. It takes some patience until you get the coil adjustments set. I do not track my car at all and was looking to keep the lowered stance and get a better ride. It paid off by making this change. Good luck with your decision!
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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This is what I get not lowered !!!!!!
Wow!! Now I think I need to take a good look at mine in the spring...that's a lot of debris
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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Wow!! Now I think I need to take a good look at mine in the spring...that's a lot of debris
That is a bunch of debris, wonder what the story is behind that.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by f6john
I really wish I was prepared to answer the coil-over question as I have a set of LG GT2's waiting for me to install. I have so much that needs to be done to my car I'm trying to find a time when I can get it all done at once, headers, cutouts, plugs, wires, 02 sensors, swaybar endlinks, and I know I want to do a bleeder extension for the clutch which means considering a new clutch and of course a tune the list just goes on.

While I have no objection to lowering on stock equipment, I just couldn't make myself do it since I know it is too much of a compromise for me. I do think that the dropped spindles are a great option for anyone who can swallow the $3k price tag. I have yet to see a used set of spindles come up for sale. I guess you would still have some adjust-ability to fine tune the drop spindles with the screws and bolts setup.

Even moving to 18" at all four corners and running 305 M/T's out back didn't close up my gaps much.

This is mine lowered all the way on stock bolts. Almost an inch lower and wheel gap all around the fender well is an even gap now. I have a tad less than 2 fingers of gap at the top now. My ride quality is just fine...

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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveToRace99
That is a bunch of debris, wonder what the story is behind that.
The story is I have to drive 250 feet on dirt before I get to pavement,I try to keep it about 4 mph,and if I hit it's usually on the way back with the fans going full blast,and when it hits it sends everything into the radiator. I installed screens so I can just vacuum it off, that is 3 months worth !!!


it cleans off easy and the crap doesn't get into the fins where it is really hard to get out,life is good !!!!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nvusgt
So back on topic. Those of you with coilovers, would you consider getting them again or would you maybe think about drop spindles? As someone who has no plans to track my car, I'm seriously considering drop spindles because my main concern is the actual ride quality.

Now I know the concerns of a static drop over the infinite adjustability with coilovers but again I don't want my ride quality to suffer. From what I've read the typical review of coilovers really only consist of "tighter," "better around corners," etc but not whether it's better or worse in comfort. If they improve comfort then by all means I'll go with CO's but I would like to keep the same ride quality or better.
So to answer more directly: I lowered first on stock bolts and the shocks would bottom out frequently just driving around town. I went through different shocks, ended up with C6 Z06’s, including C6 Z06 sway bars and new metal end links. Then went to C5 Z51 springs and aftermarket bolts. The looks were good but the ride was unacceptable. I then looked at the drop spindles and coil overs. The coil overs were chosen because I could adjust dampening and height and I did not lose any suspension travel from stock. The look is as good as the aftermarket bolts, but the ride is now so much better. As soft as stock? No, but it is firm and for lack of a better term, supple. It absorbs the road bumps without bottoming and jarring but maintains a sense of firm control. I have since added the drop spindles just to give me a starting point about an inch lower than stock and then adjust the coil overs to where I will be satisfied. I would recommend first going coil overs and later consider the drop spindles. I think for the street the coil overs will be more than sufficient, but as you will find out you may never be satisfied.

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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by f6john
I really wish I was prepared to answer the coil-over question as I have a set of LG GT2's waiting for me to install. I have so much that needs to be done to my car I'm trying to find a time when I can get it all done at once, headers, cutouts, plugs, wires, 02 sensors, swaybar endlinks, and I know I want to do a bleeder extension for the clutch which means considering a new clutch and of course a tune the list just goes on.

While I have no objection to lowering on stock equipment, I just couldn't make myself do it since I know it is too much of a compromise for me. I do think that the dropped spindles are a great option for anyone who can swallow the $3k price tag. I have yet to see a used set of spindles come up for sale. I guess you would still have some adjust-ability to fine tune the drop spindles with the screws and bolts setup.

Even moving to 18" at all four corners and running 305 M/T's out back didn't close up my gaps much.

Thank you for the response. It seems after some input from a few people, the better option would be coilovers.

I suppose since I was considering 3k drop spindles, the question is should I pony up and get Pfadt Featherlight adjustables or save a bit of money and go with LG G2 Adjustables? I also plan to replace bushings, possibly the end links and sways depending on the condition of my stockers. But ya I'm pretty much doing a full up suspension upgrade.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nvusgt
Thank you for the response. It seems after some input from a few people, the better option would be coilovers.

I suppose since I was considering 3k drop spindles, the question is should I pony up and get Pfadt Featherlight adjustables or save a bit of money and go with LG G2 Adjustables? I also plan to replace bushings, possibly the end links and sways depending on the condition of my stockers. But ya I'm pretty much doing a full up suspension upgrade.
I would want to be satisfied that aFe/Pfadt have worked out their issues with leaks. A lot of guys were having problems with leaks, some right out of the box.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alxltd1
So to answer more directly: I lowered first on stock bolts and the shocks would bottom out frequently just driving around town. I went through different shocks, ended up with C6 Z06’s, including C6 Z06 sway bars and new metal end links. Then went to C5 Z51 springs and aftermarket bolts. The looks were good but the ride was unacceptable. I then looked at the drop spindles and coil overs. The coil overs were chosen because I could adjust dampening and height and I did not lose any suspension travel from stock. The look is as good as the aftermarket bolts, but the ride is now so much better. As soft as stock? No, but it is firm and for lack of a better term, supple. It absorbs the road bumps without bottoming and jarring but maintains a sense of firm control. I have since added the drop spindles just to give me a starting point about an inch lower than stock and then adjust the coil overs to where I will be satisfied. I would recommend first going coil overs and later consider the drop spindles. I think for the street the coil overs will be more than sufficient, but as you will find out you may never be satisfied.

Would love to see pics of your set-up. You are the only person I know of who has dropped spindles and coil-overs.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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alxltd1, dude I would really like to see pics of your current stance. Which coilovers did you go with and thank you for the response, very insightful.

Is there any chance you might be selling the drop spindles in the future haha
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by f6john
Would love to see pics of your set-up. You are the only person I know of who has dropped spindles and coil-overs.
Originally Posted by nvusgt
alxltd1, dude I would really like to see pics of your current stance. Which coilovers did you go with and thank you for the response, very insightful.

Is there any chance you might be selling the drop spindles in the future haha
Car is in the shop for flared fenders front and rear, hood, rear brake vents and other body work and paint. Pic attached are progress shots. will post pics once all done. And no i think I will be keeping the spindles. Coil overs are from Stance. They have worked without issue and are less expensive than LG or PFADT.






This is a pic before new wheels/tires but on the coil overs, but not the drop spindles.


Also, I am looking into replacing the control arm bushings. Have been doing research and trying to decide on either replacing all the arms with new, only way to get new rubber bushings, or Poly, though Poly may stiffen the ride more than I want.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by alxltd1
Also, I am looking into replacing the control arm bushings. Have been doing research and trying to decide on either replacing all the arms with new, only way to get new rubber bushings, or Poly, though Poly may stiffen the ride more than I want.
I'm concerned about getting new bushings all around just because of that fact. So the only way to get new rubber bushings is replacing the entire arm?
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nvusgt
I'm concerned about getting new bushings all around just because of that fact. So the only way to get new rubber bushings is replacing the entire arm?
Yes only with new arms. Which with OEM GM parts I have found to range around $2400 plus. With some aftermarket arms, which I can only find for the front, and OEM rears about $1900.

I excluded solid bearings and Delrin as being too much for the street and have been looking at Poly bushing kits for the existing arms which are running between $100 and $500 depending on source and if the kit contains new metal inserts and trunions for the front uppers. The bushings debate is whole different thread regarding wear, squeaking, whether to fit grease fittings and what type of grease and if the bushings are two peice or one and if they have grease grooves or not.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 08:44 AM
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Jesus. Just what I needed, more items to spend an ungodly amount of time researching and over thinking.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 09:12 AM
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Drop spindles will keep the ride quality as it is now since no changes are made to the spring rates, shocks or suspension travel. If you install coil overs, most come with stiffer springs to compensate for the lowered ride height that most customers want; if lowered on coil overs, the suspension travel will be reduced and the combination will give a tighter ride but not as soft as the stock setup. My car came with the softest springs from the factory and lowering the ride height ruined three sets of shocks from the reduced suspension travel over pot holes in the roads; switching to coil overs fixed the hammering from the road but the ride is not as soft which is ok with me.
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Drop Spindles being installed right now, fronts are done, intend to run either adjustable shocks or Coilovers in the future, I was already lowered 3/4" in rear & about a 1/2" in front, I intend to leave that as it was.

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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 05:46 AM
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Did you get those new or did you happen to snag them off of someone?

I seriously can't help but think about getting both. It's the perfect combo to get the exact ride height without sacrificing even a little bit of comfort, but man would it be a spendy set up.
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Lowered on stock bolts. 19" CCWs Love the ride and no problems
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 08:25 PM
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Did you get those new or did you happen to snag them off of someone?

I seriously can't help but think about getting both. It's the perfect combo to get the exact ride height without sacrificing even a little bit of comfort, but man would it be a spendy set up.
I purchased my Spindles new back in 2014 got the best deal I could get which was $2600. I have never seen them cheaper unless they are used.
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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So. Awesome. Looking forward to your assessment once installed.
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