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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:03 PM
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Has anybody tried water wetter? Pros/cons. My vert doesn't have any heat issues I am just curious.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:29 PM
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I tried it in my C3 with no noticeable benefit.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:36 PM
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I know people use it mixed with distilled water for motorcycle track bikes. Sometimes antifreeze is banned to prevent the track from getting slippery after a crash. But I don't see any reason to use it in a street driven corvette.
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It works great at making your wallet lighter
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A neighbor used it in his Cobra and Ferrari and swore by it.

But I'd say if you're not overheating, don't spend the money.

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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 07:24 PM
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Billions of dollars are spent on these snake oil chemicals that practically do nothing. I'm thinking of saving my **** and putting it into cans to be used in an adding into the radiator.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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I run straight distilled water with 1 bottle of water wetter

Water Wetter works real well,
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolver ZSTi
I run straight distilled water with 1 bottle of water wetter

Water Wetter works real well,
Antifreeze inhibits corrosion, has a higher boiling point and lubricates water pump. In race car applications it works but I would not do it for a street car.
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Originally Posted by pbergmann
It works great at making your wallet lighter
Pretty much.

You'd get better results by just properly serving your engine's cooling system.
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I've been using for years. Do I see a real, perceptible difference? No, as a standard water temp gauge is probably not all that sensitive. HOWEVER, while it may make my wallet lighter, it doesn't make it all that much lighter, and even if it only helps a little, it's still beneficial.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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Extensive testing myself on NASCAR and SCCA cars. Water-Wetter is only for one application - little or no anti-freeze. Anti-freeze is a MUCH less competent cooler than water - it is ONLY for preventing freezing. Water works roughly 30% better at cooling than anti-freeze, and you NEVER need a 50/50 mix unless the weather you're exposed to needs that much freeze protection. Use ONLY as much as the chart requires for your climate - the MORE water in the mix the better. This is chemistry, not opinion, so I don't care what you personally think. This "50/50" crap just sells lots of anti-freeze.

What anti-freeze does offer is lube for the water pump and protection for the aluminum in the system. Buick's 1963 all-aluminum V-8 was a marvel, easily 30 years ahead of it's time, and used for 30+ more years in England (and by me in two sand rails :-). HOWEVER, Buick owners not using anti-freeze converted the little engines to piles of dust in two years. Warranty issues killed it, and Rover quickly bought the rights for peanuts and it became one of the staples of European sedan racing.

Water-Wetter makes water work about 12% better at cooling. WW (in the proper concentration) also provides the lube and aluminum protection that water-alone does not, without reverting to anti-freeze (which is only about freezing!). Many racers don't entirely trust it, and also add additional water-soluble lube for moving parts.

WW definitely has it's place, but using water-wetter with anti-freeze is like whizzing into the wind. Better to just tape the money onto the radiator hoses.

Edit: do NOT ever use WW and distilled water. The lack of ions in solution will leach the aluminum right off the block. If using just WW, use a good drinking water that's low - but normal - in salinity/TDS.

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Originally Posted by smartadze
Extensive testing myself on NASCAR and SCCA cars. Water-Wetter is only for one application - little or no anti-freeze. Anti-freeze is a MUCH less competent cooler than water - it is ONLY for preventing freezing. Water works roughly 30% better at cooling than anti-freeze, and you NEVER need a 50/50 mix unless the weather you're exposed to needs that much freeze protection. Use ONLY as much as the chart requires for your climate - the MORE water in the mix the better. This is chemistry, not opinion, so I don't care what you personally think. This "50/50" crap just sells lots of anti-freeze.

What anti-freeze does offer is lube for the water pump and protection for the aluminum in the system. Buick's 1963 all-aluminum V-8 was a marvel, easily 30 years ahead of it's time, and used for 30+ more years in England (and by me in two sand rails :-). HOWEVER, Buick owners not using anti-freeze converted the little engines to piles of dust in two years. Warranty issues killed it, and Rover quickly bought the rights for peanuts and it became one of the staples of European sedan racing.

Water-Wetter makes water work about 12% better at cooling. WW (in the proper concentration) also provides the lube and aluminum protection that water-alone does not, without reverting to anti-freeze (which is only about freezing!). Many racers don't entirely trust it, and also add additional water-soluble lube for moving parts.

WW definitely has it's place, but using water-wetter with anti-freeze is like whizzing into the wind. Better to just tape the money onto the radiator hoses.

Edit: do NOT ever use WW and distilled water. The lack of ions in solution will leach the aluminum right off the block. If using just WW, use a good drinking water that's low - but normal - in salinity/TDS.
So it's false advertising.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=74&pcid=10

Compatible with new or used antifreeze (including DEX-COOLTM and long-life versions) to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems

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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
So it's false advertising.
False? Depends on whether you're a racer or an ad writer. ANYTHING - even adding a 12-oz bottle of water - will theoretically improve the heat transfer properties of anti-freeze. This would also include taping the bills to the radiator hose.

Measuring an effect is another animal entirely.

An edit: RedLine's old tech sheets never stressed any use in anti-freeze systems, saying only that it was compatible. Somebody clearly saw the possibility of a new market for the stuff at Pep Boys.

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Anybody try this stuff? I am going to pick up a bottle and let you know if it runs any cooler. Now it runs 196 cruising at 65 when it's 80 degrees outside. 7 bucks at Autozone.
http://www.hyperlube.com/c3/super-coolant-c8.html



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If it's not broken, don't fix it...
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Look at the label on the bottle and you will see that there is almost no improvement if you run a 50/50 anti-freeze and water mix. It does make good improvements when the % of anti-freeze is very low or as mentioned above in applications where anti-freeze is prohibited so you run all water.


That's why my standard 35/65 mix ratio also gets a bottle of WW.
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If I get 3 degrees I will be happy. If I don't, I will use the money back guarantee.
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Originally Posted by 73Corvette
If it's not broken, don't fix it...
Of course you are right, but I need to know.
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This is a typical example of 1 % science and 99 % hype. Another of those gullible consumers who will buy into anything. There are many ways to increase the boiling point of water,, but to such a small degree, its useless in a car.
Pure water boils at a temperature of 100 degrees Celsius, or 211.9 degrees Fahrenheit. This standard assumes an external atmospheric pressure of 1 bar or the standard pressure at sea level.

Manufacturer know that car enthusiasts will buy into anything that seems logical..

The only good thing about throwing your money away on this item is , it makes you feel like you did something... but in reality, you just lightened your wallet a little. A change in altitude ( geographically and topographically ) will have more effect on coolant than this stuff.

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